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Ed's March Fifty50 Sitngos - Tue Feb 28, 2012, 12:06 PM
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I played over a hundred $1.50 Fifty50s in February and I've decided to concentrate on them in March.

I have set aside 50 buy-ins - $75 - and set myself a volume target of 200+ tournaments. That is only about 6 or 7 a day and I'll do more if I can. I will multi-table these if I need to but I will try to stick to 1 or 2 tables unless I get behind schedule. Although I prefer to play the regular speed rather than the turbos, they still don't usually take too long so I hope I can do 200+ easily. I'll post some hands, track my results - discuss the format etc in this thread.

I didn't really like these games when they paid the same prize to the top 5 (the Double or Nothing equivalent game). Since they changed them to pay out based on final chip stacks I think the format has become more interesting. I'm not convinced they are very profitable, but I want to give them a real go to see if I can make them work for me, then perhaps move up the buy ins.

Alonside this personal challenge I have set a challenge to anybody at PSO playing the $1.50 Fifty50 games in March 2012 - with $15.00 added prizes - see the details here:

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/for...-Fellow-PSOers

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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Tue Feb 28, 2012, 11:46 PM
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Study Time

Tomorrow I plan just to study ready for my run at the Fifty50 games.

I have just watched Dave The Langolier's archived training video on these.

Title: Live Training Video: $21.20 Fifty50 SNG Replayer (16th November 2011)

which can be found here -

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...-November-2011

[It does have the 150VPP restriction so unfortunately will not be available to all.]

I had not watched the video before. I found it to be a very useful session so if you are able to watch it I would definitely recommend it. Dave highlights some of the different strategies that can work well at this format. I won't give away the ending - I'll let you guess if Lango cashes or not.....

Going to trawl for some more training materials specific to this format - if anybody has any ideas or recommendations for the Fifty50s please feel free to add them here.

Good luck all

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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 12:11 PM
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Have just watched another video on Fifty50s in the Archive - by Pokerstars Pro Raymond Wu.

Title: Session Videos - Raymond Wu SNG Fifty50 $105

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...NG-Fifty50-105

[This one requires 20VPPs to watch.]

Despite the title, Raymond Wu is not playing at the $105 level - he has two tables running, one at $20 and one at $50. The video is only 25 minutes. He runs into some different spots that complement the ones shown in The Langolier's video that I watched yesterday, so over the two different sessions you can see quite a range of spots in action. They both play a similar strategy, with tight play in the early stages and more aggression when they have reads and can take significant dead money in the middle & later stages as they approach the bubble

One of the main differences is in the style of some their opponents play. Dave identified a weak player who was limp/folding a lot and exploited that read, whereas at Raymond's second table he had a player to his left that was willing to call raises and shoves fairly light. Raymond had to be more careful with his aggression than he intended to be and not shove trashy hands that would get looked up.

As with all poker games - these show the importance in the Fifty50s of paying attention to your opponents tendencies and adjusting to exploit any reads you are able to pick up.

Both these archived videos get a thumbs up from me.



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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 02:09 PM
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OK - I found a third video on Fifty50s to watch in the archive, played at the high buy-in level of $105 on up to 5 tables by Danish pokerstars team pro Theo Jorgensen

Title:Session Videos - Theo Jorgensen SNG Fifty50 $105

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...NG-Fifty50-105

Once again this has a 150VPP requirement. I'm still looking for 'free' content on the Fifty50s.

I also have reservations about this video. Within the first minute and a half Theo explains that;

"it doesn't matter if you have 5 chips....or everything....you still win the same, you basically double up your money here."

It sounds as if when this was recorded he hadn't quite grasped the change from the Double or Nothing format to the Fifty50 format, where pay-outs do vary dependent on chips.

The multi-tabling gives more spots to talk about, but I think it is a bit confusing and difficult to follow when at one point Theo has 5 tables running. The clearest parts are at the start and towards the end when he had two tables max showing at a time.

My final reservation is that Theo is not the most scintillating commentator - to be honest I found it all a bit slow and dull, at 55 minutes it is quite long and seemed even longer.

That's the criticism over. Now we have to give Theo his due - not unexpectedly for a pro he plays well and if you concentrate there are some good bits and pieces of advice to pick up on. He cashes in three of the five games he completes during the session with pretty large stacks in two of them. We don't get to see his winnings except for the first one he cashes where you briefly see the lobby showing he came first for a cash of $311.57, so a nice profit over the session by the look of it.

Overall - I thnk it is always good to watch a pro player and hear their thoughts, but this is not the best of the videos I have seen so far. I think part of the problem with some of the the poker professionals' videos is that they are not necessarily as adept at putting across their thought processes as our professional trainers like the Langolier and xflixx who do this all the time are.

OK - back to the studies.

good luck all

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Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:34 PM
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At last - a video that has no VPP requirements.

It is one by Pokerstars Pro Celina Lin - playing Fifty50s at the reasonably low level of $5.50,
although this buy in is no longer available - now for under $10 there are the $1.50, $3.50 and $7.00 - but it should be equivalent play so was well worth watching.

Title: Session Videos - Celina Lin SNG Fifty50 $5.50

which can be found here

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/art...#ixzz1nnS0kGnZ

I really liked this video - it is quite short - only about half an hour, and Celina plays two tables. She hit some terrible luck at the first one but more than made up for it at the second.

I like her presentational style. Even when she was not involved in hands she kept talking about general strategy and made a lot of interesting points in the short timeframe. In the second game particularly she illustrates her game plan to keep picking up chips with a lot of aggression in spots she considered opponents would have to fold irrespective of her holdings.

There is a second video from her at a higher buyin which does have a VPP restriction - I am looking forward to watching that next.

Good luck all

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Thu Mar 01, 2012, 08:46 AM
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My March Fifty50 series is up and running.

Started off the month with a cash for 3rd place - mostly went according to plan

During current Hold'em session you were dealt 61 hands and saw flop:
- 5 out of 8 times while in big blind (62%)
- 2 out of 8 times while in small blind (25%)
- 2 out of 45 times in other positions (4%)
- a total of 9 out of 61 (14%)
Pots won at showdown - 2 of 3 (66%)
Pots won without showdown - 2

The game lasted 53 mins, I picked up most of my stack when dealt QQ in the SB and the button shoved TT - I held to bust them.



I think the opp there was a reg - they were on over 20 tables of this format and played tight so I wasn't surprised they shoved or that they had a hand - obviously I had to call my QQ.

Finished with 2.970 chips for $2.69 prize

Prize calculation

Place - Chips - Prize Awarded -
1) - 5,285 - $3.73 = $1.35 + $2.38
2) - 4,070 - $3.18 = $1.35 + $1.83
3) - 2,970 - $2.69 = $1.35 + $1.34
4) - 1,490 - $2.02 = $1.35 + $0.67
5) - 1,185 - $1.88 = $1.35 + $0.53

TOTAL - 15,000 - $13.50 = $6.75 + $6.75

Interesting to see the difference if this hand had held



I'm a roughly 2:1 favourite against their hand - (or against any 2 cards) - if I bust them the tourney is over instantly I have 4,660 chips and win it for $3.44.

As they only have 445 chips before paying the SB I am paying 445 into the 1,240 pot with great odds.

Those 445 chips represent about $0.20 of prize value.

If they fold it's also good, though I expect this short a stack to call with any reasonable hand quite often.

When I lose as I did here it's not critical.

I think it is a +ev move as it is very unlikely anybody else will get involved on the bubble with such a short stack in the BB, even with premium hands.

Results
1) - T525130308 - 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.69 - $1.19 - $1.19

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Thu Mar 01, 2012, 02:16 PM
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Well....I've played three now and had one of each....

One top 3 for a reasonable cash,one 4th place for a min cash, one miss.

Results
1) - T525130308 - 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.69 - $1.19 - $1.19
2) - T525201293 - 9/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($0.31)
3) - T525215972 - 4/10 - $1.50 - $1.97 - $0.47 - $0.16

No harm but need to do better to be profitable.

Game 2
I played an AK hand early in the SB, got a bit tied to it when I hit top/top and a back door nut flush draw on the flop - wasn't too horrible as I kind of committed myself on the turn when the flush draw card came, knowing I had outs if I was behind - but I could have played the hand better from the start, by raising preflop. I flatted preflop because I was out of position and thought I could see the flop cheap and still get away if I missed. Opponent called my bet pretty loose on the flop with a small pair and gutshot straight draw.



Game 3
I was fairly card dead apart from KK in the BB which I raised pre when the table folded round and the SB completed - but the SB immediately folded to my raise.

So it was a case of hanging in for the cash and using my remaining fold equity on the bubble in spots like this - because I sure had no pot equity.



Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:13 PM
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My first 25 games at the $1.50 Fifty50 resulted in a loss of $2.42.

I know I made quite a lot of mistakes - I haven't done a full review of my game hand histories but I remember several spots where I overvalued good single pair hands or got too committed with high cards like AJ/AQ. I am still adjusting my strategy for these. The studying certainly helped, although I have to put it into practice better than I have done so far.

Results
No. Finish - Buy-in - Profit(Loss) - Cum P/(L)
01) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.69 - $1.19 - $1.19
02) 9/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($0.31)
03) 4/10 - $1.50 - $1.97 - $0.47 - $0.16
04) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($1.34)
05) 8/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($2.84)
06) 4/10 - $1.50 - $1.97 - $0.47 - ($2.37)
07) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($3.87)
08) 6/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($5.37)
09) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.30 - $0.80 - ($4.57)
10) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.04 - $0.54 - ($4.03)
11) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.37 - 1.87 - ($2.16)
12) 3/10 - $1.50 - $3.12 - 1.62 - ($0.54)
13) 8/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($2.04)
14) 4/10 - $1.50 - $1.96 - $0.46 - ($1.58)
15) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($3.08)
16) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.49 - $0.99 - ($2.09)
17) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.16 - $0.66 - ($1.43)
18) 6/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($2.93)
19) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.10 - $0.60 - ($2.33)
20) 3/10 - $1.50 - $1.9 - $0.40 - ($1.93)
21) 8/10- $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($3.43)
22) 6/10- $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($4.93)
23) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.35 - $0.85 - ($4.08)
24) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.16 - $0.66 - ($3.42)
25) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.50 - $1.00 - ($2.42)

At my worst point I was down $5.37 or about 3.5 buy-ins, which isn't too drastic. I will look at my stats more once I have played 100 games - I am on the second run of 25 now.

I used the 20FPPs earnt through these to play 2 x 10FPP MTTs and managed a FT 6th place in one for $16.00 so my bankroll is still healthy overall.

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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Mon Mar 05, 2012, 08:27 AM
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I used the 20FPPs earnt through these to play 2 x 10FPP MTTs and managed a FT 6th place in one for $16.00 so my bankroll is still healthy overall.
Wow - that's awesome Ed! Congrats!!
 
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I have played ten more Fity50s and am pleased to say I have turned my loss making position after 25 games round and am now into profit after 35 games.

I was particularly pleased with my last game, which was my first 'big' win of this run.
I finished with 8,403chips - 56% of the total chips on the table.

PokerStars Tournament #527390810, No Limit Hold'em
Buy-In: $1.35/$0.15 USD10 players
Total Prize Pool: $13.50 USD
Tournament started 2012/03/05 13:09:23 WET [2012/03/05 8:09:23 ET]

Dear EdinFreeMan,
You finished the tournament in 1st place. A USD 5.13 award has been credited to your Real Money account. Congratulations! Thank you for participating.

Those chips translated to a prize of over $5 - the first time I have achieved this at this format and buy-in level.

I did have a big share of good luck here - getting dealt great cards and getting paid for them more than once - including the final winning hand.



However, I think I also played fairly solid poker and didn't make too many mistakes.The only big pot I lost was with JJ v A9 that flopped an ace then rivered two pairs.



I am happy with my overall game and record in the last ten games. I cashed 9/10 and made a total profit of $9.89 on $15.00 buy-ins.

My overall profit over the first 35 games now stands at $7.48.

I hope I can keep this run going.

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012, 03:32 PM
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Just had a record run of 14 cashes in a row at the $1.50 Fifty50s - my longest winning run to date at this format/buy-in.

After being down $2.42 over my first 25 tournaments I started my second run of 25 games with another loss in the first game - but then it was cash cash cash.

Results - Start of 2nd run of 25 (01-15)
No. Finish - Buy-in - Profit(Loss) - Cum P/(L)
01) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($1.50)
02) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.48 - $0.98 - ($0.52)
03) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.99 - $1.49 - $0.97
04) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.43 - $0.93 - $1.90
05) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.74 - $0.24 - $2.14
06) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.51 - $1.01 - $3.15
07) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.18 - $0.68 - $3.83
08) 2/10 - $1.50 - $3.73 - $2.23 - $6.06
09) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.70 - $0.20 - $6.26
10) 1/10 - $1.50 - $5.13 - $3.63 - $9.89
11) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.76 - $0.26 - $10.15
12) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.53 - $2.03 - $12.18
13) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $12.95
14) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.51 - $2.01 - $14.96
15) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $15.73

$15.73 up with ten games to go in this run of 25 I am guaranteed to be in profit, and hopefully when I return from a break this afternoon I can keep up this level of consistency.

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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Tue Mar 06, 2012, 03:55 PM
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My Sitngo Graph at PokerProLabs is (at last) heading back in the right direction.

Now I just need to get it back above that '0' line.

http://pokerprolabs.com/topsharkpro/...iod=2012&w=278

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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This is where my winning run came to an end.



Bubble boy for 6th place.

Edit: Just pokerstoved the hand.

My A5s is obviously a roughly 2:1 dog to KK preflop - then on this flop I become a slight 55/45 favourite.
Perhaps my shove on the bubble was a bit loose? I was winning so often I was getting trigger happy.

Ended my good run of 17 cashes in a row - (it had to end somewhere).

Then again - I did cash again the next game.

Onwards and upwards!

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan

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Just had a record run of 14 cashes in a row at the $1.50 Fifty50s - my longest winning run to date at this format/buy-in.

After being down $2.42 over my first 25 tournaments I started my second run of 25 games with another loss in the first game - but then it was cash cash cash.

Results - Start of 2nd run of 25 (01-15)
No. Finish - Buy-in - Profit(Loss) - Cum P/(L)
01) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($1.50)
02) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.48 - $0.98 - ($0.52)
03) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.99 - $1.49 - $0.97
04) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.43 - $0.93 - $1.90
05) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.74 - $0.24 - $2.14
06) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.51 - $1.01 - $3.15
07) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.18 - $0.68 - $3.83
08) 2/10 - $1.50 - $3.73 - $2.23 - $6.06
09) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.70 - $0.20 - $6.26
10) 1/10 - $1.50 - $5.13 - $3.63 - $9.89
11) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.76 - $0.26 - $10.15
12) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.53 - $2.03 - $12.18
13) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $12.95
14) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.51 - $2.01 - $14.96
15) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $15.73

$15.73 up with ten games to go in this run of 25 I am guaranteed to be in profit, and hopefully when I return from a break this afternoon I can keep up this level of consistency.

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
WOWOWOWOW.......................

damn ED your a PRO in these kind 14 consecutive cashes.......weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
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Thu Mar 08, 2012, 04:16 PM
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Thanks for the support Marvin.

Have just finished my second run of 25 games.

Results - 2nd run of 25
No. Finish - Buy-in - Profit(Loss) - Cum P/(L)
01) 7/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - ($1.50)
02) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.48 - $0.98 - ($0.52)
03) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.99 - $1.49 - $0.97
04) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.43 - $0.93 - $1.90
05) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.74 - $0.24 - $2.14
06) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.51 - $1.01 - $3.15
07) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.18 - $0.68 - $3.83
08) 2/10 - $1.50 - $3.73 - $2.23 - $6.06
09) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.70 - $0.20 - $6.26
10) 1/10 - $1.50 - $5.13 - $3.63 - $9.89
11) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.76 - $0.26 - $10.15
12) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.53 - $2.03 - $12.18
13) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $12.95
14) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.51 - $2.01 - $14.96
15) 4/10 - $1.50 - $2.27 - $0.77 - $15.73
16) 5/10 - $1.50 - $2.08 - $0.58 - $16.31
17) 4/10 - $1.50 - $1.85 - $0.35 - $16.66
18) 1/10 - $1.50 - $3.74 - $2.24 - $18.90
19) 6/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - $17.40
20) 2/10 - $1.50 - $2.73 - $1.23 - $18.63
21) 5/10 - $1.50 - $3.74 - $2.24 - $18.90
22) 10/10 - $1.50 - $0.00 - ($1.50) - $17.40
23) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.62 - $1.12 - $18.52
24) 3/10 - $1.50 - $2.84 - $1.34 - $19.86
25) 5/10 - $1.50 - $1.87 - $0.37 - $20.23

Cashed 22/25 = 88% ITM
Profit $20.23 on $37.50 buy-ins = 53.95% ROI

If I can get anywhere close to these figures in future I will be very happy - I did run pretty good over these games, and two of my 3 busts when I failed to cash were to monster KK hands, once holding A5s getting short stacked (posted above) and once very early in game 22 when I shoved QQ into a limped KK and was first out.

Overall - I hope this is a sign of improvement and that I can continue to play solid poker.

Good luck all

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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good set set
 
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Fri Mar 09, 2012, 10:11 AM
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Great Stuff Sir Ed

Keep it going and Congrats on the Cashes