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Thought I would share a situation from a hand I played this evening in the Sunday Storm. It is with regards to a rule that I don't think many poker players know exists - and in fact until recently neither did I, it's something JWK24 called me out on in a PSO homegame last month. Read the hand history and spot the problem:


PokerStars Hand #126449167701: Tournament #1051405184, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2014/12/07 18:39:04 WET [2014/12/07 13:39:04 ET]
Table '1051405184 224' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: nherrego (5050 in chips)
Seat 2: edelnuss1 (4940 in chips)
Seat 3: bigdady1011 (4940 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: barnz5544 (4770 in chips)
Seat 5: pithikos (4900 in chips)
Seat 6: grangoli (5080 in chips)
Seat 7: flo131288 (5550 in chips)
Seat 8: PlasticPearl (4830 in chips)
Seat 9: Andiniho (4940 in chips)
barnz5544: posts small blind 10
pithikos: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PlasticPearl [Qs Qd]
grangoli: folds
flo131288: folds
PlasticPearl: raises 30 to 50
Andiniho: calls 50
nherrego: raises 210 to 260
edelnuss1: folds
bigdady1011: folds
barnz5544: folds
pithikos: folds
PlasticPearl: raises 440 to 700
Andiniho said, "KJ heart"
PlasticPearl said, "dude"
Andiniho: folds
PlasticPearl said, "you cant tell us that while the hand is live"
nherrego: folds [Kc]
Uncalled bet (440) returned to PlasticPearl
PlasticPearl collected 600 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 600 | Rake 0
Seat 1: nherrego folded before Flop
Seat 2: edelnuss1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: bigdady1011 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: barnz5544 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: pithikos (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: grangoli folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: flo131288 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PlasticPearl collected (600)
Seat 9: Andiniho folded before Flop

It's a three way pot and I've opened. I am called by Adiniho, and nherrego puts in a 3bet. I then 4-bet, at which point Adiniho folds. Crucially, in the chat he says 'KJ heart'.  To my disbelief, nherrego then folds, showing a single K. I don't think he had KK: he would probably have still shipped it. KQ is an unlikely hand to 3-bet in this spot, and and I am blocking KQ anyway. So he probably has AK, and he has folded knowing that one of his outs has gone. This, on average, will have cost me chips as I would have been a favourite in the hand.

This violates the Card Room Rules:

22:You may not make any chat comments which may affect the play of any hand or tournament, even if you are an observer. There are two exceptions to this rule:

a)In cash game hands which are heads up (everyone else has folded, or the hand started with two players) the two players involved may chat about the hand as they wish.

b)In tournaments which are heads up (everyone else has been knocked out of the tournament, or the tournament started with two players), the two players involved may chat about the hand as they wish.

As this pot was not heads up, it is against the rules. Now I am not necessarily blaming Andiniho for this: the Storm is a tournament full of casual players, and how many players will have read the rules? Even I wasn't aware of this until recently! But I hope this blog post might go towards making some more people aware.

Incidentally, the next step of the Card Room rules says:

23. Report any problem chat immediately; please call a Chat Moderator by clicking the ‘Call Moderator’ button in the Dealer Chip Tray or ‘Options’ button at the top of the table.

Which I did. To my amusement the moderator came along, said hello, and then said there was nothing for them to do. The very least I would have expected was them to remind players of the rules: so that was very disappointing from Pokerstars, given that I explained the issue when I reported it. I have e-mailed PS Support so we'll see if they agree with me!

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