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hi lo nightmare - Sat Jan 11, 2003, 01:35 PM
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whats with limit omaha hi lo
you get AA23 ds and flop comes 9TJ rainbow you fold and turn and river bring you a runner runner

you get AAJTds flop comes A23 turn 6 river 7 and you know your trip aces were no good on flop without help


this game is unreal i am starting to think the only cards to play are unsuited middle cards cause there the ones that are winning pot after pot after pot
and the same players are raising them preflop knowing that there junks going to hit


is limit omaha hi lo worse than KENO?
 
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Re: hi lo nightmare - Sat Jan 11, 2003, 05:55 PM
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whats with limit omaha hi lo
you get AA23 ds and flop comes 9TJ rainbow you fold and turn and river bring you a runner runner
You bet with that crap?

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you get AAJTds flop comes A23 turn 6 river 7 and you know your trip aces were no good on flop without help
Ya don't want to lead at an A23 flop with "only" a set of A's. Probly best to check/fold :lol: :lol: :wink:

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this game is unreal i am starting to think the only cards to play are unsuited middle cards cause there the ones that are winning pot after pot after pot and the same players are raising them preflop knowing that there junks going to hit
Bottom 2-pair plus filthy low is a monster in this game :roll:

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is limit omaha hi lo worse than KENO?
Yes. Take the pledge or join Omaholics anonymous. But ya gotta be tough. :twisted:

Cheers,

Glenn

p.s. are Scotland in the cricket World Cup?
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2003, 02:32 AM
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A couple of excellent tidbits from discussion in the PSO seminar in Tunica...Regarding O/8...

Don't play for half the pot. Your hand must be able to make both, most likey a "nut" high, and some kind of low. If you go for either, thru selection of starting hands. You've already conceeded at least half the pot to someone else!!

Wrap hands...4 corordinated connecting cards work well in Omaha.

8O
'Goddess
 
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Sun Jan 12, 2003, 12:12 PM
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A couple of excellent tidbits from discussion in the PSO seminar in Tunica...Regarding O/8...

Don't play for half the pot. Your hand must be able to make both, most likey a "nut" high, and some kind of low. If you go for either, thru selection of starting hands. You've already conceeded at least half the pot to someone else!!
WhywhywhywhywhywhywhyWHY are they giving away all the secrets to this game? Now EVERYONE is going to know how to play!! 8O 8O

Chris
 
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Re: hi lo nightmare - Wed Jan 15, 2003, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ironside
you get AAJTds flop comes A23 turn 6 river 7 and you know your trip aces were no good on flop without help

this game is unreal i am starting to think the only cards to play are unsuited middle cards cause there the ones that are winning pot after pot after pot and the same players are raising them preflop knowing that there junks going to hit

is limit omaha hi lo worse than KENO?
Well, if you really decide to play unsuited middle cards, Omaha probably is a worse gamble than Keno. Flopping a low set in Omaha/8 is dangerous. First, your set already puts one low card on board, so the chances that you are playing for only half the pot are magnified, and sets are not consistent winners in Omaha/8 anyway.

Omaha/8 is a game of scoops, not a game of splits -- and the winning high hand is usually a straight, a flush, or a full house. That's not to say that you shouldn't ever play for half the pot. Of course you should, but you need to do so with a positive expectation.

That means you need a bunch of callers and a reason to believe that you have the best hand in your direction. This often happens when you enter the pot with A-2-3-x and there's an obvious low. Now if an ace or a deuce fall on the turn and counterfeits the nut low, you have good reason to believe you will not have to share the low end of the pot with any other opponent. If you think about it, you'll be able to come up with a lot of additional examples similar to this.

Omaha/8 can also be insidious on the high end as well as the low side of the pot. If you have a high hand, think you have a really good chance of winning the high side (although you do not have the nuts), and a third low card comes on the turn, your odds have been substantially reduced. Suppose there's $140 in the pot and someone bets when a third low card comes on the turn. Instead of getting odds of $160-to-$20 for your high draw on the turn, you are now getting odds of 80-to-20. The amount of money you figure to win has been cut in half, but the cost to draw is still the same as it was when you had a chance to win twice as much money if your hand held up!

Once you realize that Omaha/8 is full of traps like this, you can become a big favorite in this game because many of your opponents will be unaware of these pitfalls. And of course, over time, they'll get caught in just as many traps as you will. But because you're a student at Poker School OnLine, you'll have learned to avoid these traps and will have harnessed the discipline needed to throw your hand away when you feel yourself becomming ensnared.
 

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