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cash table, baby pocket pairs?? - Fri Feb 04, 2011, 11:58 PM
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these baby pocket pair's ( - ) seem to me one of the more difficult hands to play.

so im curious how people play them.

1. Should i raise from mid to late position with 2 or 3 limpers in the pot ?
I never feel the urge to raise them regardless of my position. (unless im making a squeeze on one guy behind me). i just want to see the flop as cheap as possible.

how big of a raise should i call mid to late position 3 or 4 bb's? should i strictly let pot odd's decide?
i usually buy in for 60-70 BB's.

post flop it just get's worse. i have an easier time C betting AK than pocket 3's.

should i play the had like pro's? raise it like AK make a strong C bet all the time? obviously if my pairs get checked to me im going to bet them.

so please give me your thought's. experience's, suggestion's.
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2011, 12:57 AM
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I don't know about others, but for myself I'm cautious playing those low pocket pairs as they can lead me into trouble. Though when I do play them from mid- to late-position I definitely don't do it limping in. Playing cash tables I usually do an initial 100bb buy-in and would make it no less than 3bb raise or more depending on how many limpers were ahead of me. Intent for e is to try and identify any strong hands that just want to gauge the table and push out any weak hands trying to see a cheap flop. Gonna pay to see them is my philosophy.

As for the post-flop play, that I tend to go based on my perceived table image, how wet the board is and the read I've gotten on the players still in the hand up to this point. If I think I've got the advantage, or possibility to win the pot by C betting it I'll put a good protection bet out there. I'm paying attention then to how quickly it's called or if someone comes back at me. If I do get someone coming back to me and I don't think I've got the best hand I haven't invested enough that I'm committed and can throw the hand, but if I think I have the best I can either 3-bet it or call and see how the next card comes. Point is I'm not letting the turn card be free unless I caught nothing but air and thought that I couldn't steal it with a bet. The protection C bet to help keep the initiative on my side.

Now those that want to pick apart others play styles might say this is asking for trouble, but over time I've found it good at keeping the donkeys in check and if they play with the worst hand they get crushed and if they get lucky they get paid but I've not gone so far that I can't recover. I also find that being aggressive rather than passive pays higher dividends. I'm not worried about losing some chips in one hand if I can make more than I lose in another.
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2011, 02:10 AM
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I don't know about others, but for myself I'm cautious playing those low pocket pairs as they can lead me into trouble. Though when I do play them from mid- to late-position I definitely don't do it limping in. Playing cash tables I usually do an initial 100bb buy-in and would make it no less than 3bb raise or more depending on how many limpers were ahead of me. Intent for e is to try and identify any strong hands that just want to gauge the table and push out any weak hands trying to see a cheap flop. Gonna pay to see them is my philosophy.

As for the post-flop play, that I tend to go based on my perceived table image, how wet the board is and the read I've gotten on the players still in the hand up to this point. If I think I've got the advantage, or possibility to win the pot by C betting it I'll put a good protection bet out there. I'm paying attention then to how quickly it's called or if someone comes back at me. If I do get someone coming back to me and I don't think I've got the best hand I haven't invested enough that I'm committed and can throw the hand, but if I think I have the best I can either 3-bet it or call and see how the next card comes. Point is I'm not letting the turn card be free unless I caught nothing but air and thought that I couldn't steal it with a bet. The protection C bet to help keep the initiative on my side.

Now those that want to pick apart others play styles might say this is asking for trouble, but over time I've found it good at keeping the donkeys in check and if they play with the worst hand they get crushed and if they get lucky they get paid but I've not gone so far that I can't recover. I also find that being aggressive rather than passive pays higher dividends. I'm not worried about losing some chips in one hand if I can make more than I lose in another.
that actually helps i usually say wirty dord and toss small prs no matter position, but play connectors, and suited connectors that way. thanks. i think ill try this but judiciously
 
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Sat Feb 05, 2011, 09:11 AM
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Sat Feb 05, 2011, 11:22 AM
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that actually helps i usually say wirty dord and toss small prs no matter position, but play connectors, and suited connectors that way. thanks. i think ill try this but judiciously
For me it's about finding what's comfortable and normal playing style for myself. I'm willing to take a hit in one hand if it means better returns on others. I can take my licks but hopefully I play it judiciously enough that the licks I take don't hurt half as bad as the ones I give.
 
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Tue Feb 08, 2011, 02:02 AM
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funny the 2 hands you chose, 5's and 2's. 5's is my favorite hand and 2's is my girlfriends favorite

but cash table id always play any small pair unless theres a raise and big reraise infront. if im first to open a pot i'll 3 or 4 BB depending on what position im in. if im first to act on a flop depending on how many callers il normally bet out unless i have 3+ callers and 2 high cards on the flop. normally everyone will fold assuming i have a high card and paired. if i get a bunch of callers i slow down and get to a showdown or toss them.
 

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