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55 UTG post bubble hits big - Tue Feb 08, 2011, 11:48 AM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.25 Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 75 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t23538)
MP2 (t24488)
CO (t4688)
Button (t34285)
SB (t21888)
BB (t18918)
Mup Mup (UTG) (t21300)
UTG+1 (t28272)

Mup Mup's M: 11.83

Preflop: Mup Mup is UTG with 5, 5
Mup Mup bets t3200, UTG+1 calls t3200, MP1 calls t3200, 4 folds, BB calls t2400

Flop: (t13800) 5, 4, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, Mup Mup bets t3200, UTG+1 calls t3200, MP1 calls t3200, BB raises to t15643 (All-In), Mup Mup raises to t18025 (All-In), 1 fold, MP1 calls t14825

Turn: (t68693) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t68693) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t68693

Money bubble had already popped and I was getting short stacked and needed to make a move. Decided to semi-bluff UTG with 55, would have layed it down to a reraise preflop. Post flop I was just trying to make it pay and get as many chips as possible into the pot. I got 2 out of 3 callers to shove with me with a fishy little Cbet that got calls back around to the BB who shoved all in. I call/reraise, and MP1 calls chasing pot odds and a flush.

Question is, did I make the smart play or should I have fired big post flop? Given the board, overpairs would have probably hung around still, which would have been the only hands I would worry about anyway and I run off the flush/straight draws (ace rag was running rampant last night).

Last edited by Mup Mup; Tue Feb 08, 2011 at 04:42 PM.. Reason: Summary/thoughts got left out in the double post shuffle.
 
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Thu Feb 10, 2011, 09:54 PM
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You have over 25BB and are UTG...I would wait for a better spot. I don't know what ICM says if rest of the table can have ATC but I would assume pokerstove will give us a fold.
 
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Thu Feb 10, 2011, 10:55 PM
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I think, depending on the dynamic at your particular table, that this preflop open could have been pretty good. You can't really set mine, but a pair is a fairly strong hand by itself, and it has its ways to win if somehow your chips do end up in the middle and you need to show it down. It's not a bad stealing hand. Without a doubt better than Ax, if I understand your table well enough.

After the flop, you made yourself look like quite the donk, which was a creative thing to do. Having flopped a hand that was second only to the nut quad hand of , you were also very possibly going to get action from any overpair, flush draw, straight draw, or flopped trips. Most hands that would chase this are ones that are at best drawing thin, and by betting small you are also possibly inducing bluffs. I think that the flop move was a little bit brilliant for a .25 MTT. I don't know if this was your intended result, though. It's possible that you just lucksacked your way to victory here, if you didn't have much of a reason to do this. Your thought process section is a little undetailed about how you were trying to get the chips in.

I hope nobody had a .
 
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Fri Feb 11, 2011, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mup Mup View Post
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.25 Tournament, 400/800 Blinds 75 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 (t23538)
MP2 (t24488)
CO (t4688)
Button (t34285)
SB (t21888)
BB (t18918)
Mup Mup (UTG) (t21300)
UTG+1 (t28272)

Mup Mup's M: 11.83

Preflop: Mup Mup is UTG with 5, 5
Mup Mup bets t3200, UTG+1 calls t3200, MP1 calls t3200, 4 folds, BB calls t2400

Flop: (t13800) 5, 4, 4 (4 players)
BB checks, Mup Mup bets t3200, UTG+1 calls t3200, MP1 calls t3200, BB raises to t15643 (All-In), Mup Mup raises to t18025 (All-In), 1 fold, MP1 calls t14825

Turn: (t68693) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t68693) J (3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t68693

Money bubble had already popped and I was getting short stacked and needed to make a move. Decided to semi-bluff UTG with 55, would have layed it down to a reraise preflop. Post flop I was just trying to make it pay and get as many chips as possible into the pot. I got 2 out of 3 callers to shove with me with a fishy little Cbet that got calls back around to the BB who shoved all in. I call/reraise, and MP1 calls chasing pot odds and a flush.

Question is, did I make the smart play or should I have fired big post flop? Given the board, overpairs would have probably hung around still, which would have been the only hands I would worry about anyway and I run off the flush/straight draws (ace rag was running rampant last night).
You flopped big enough not to really need to worry about your post flop betting line TBH.

a BIG flop bet is pretty dumb tbh: why do you WANT to run off straight flush draws, or over-boat draws, looking for just 2 outs to beat you?

Fact is, your bet, or a check to let someone else "catch" a straight or a flush, is exactly what you want to do.

Your bet here looks a bit "weak", so it may appear as you are drawing. That is good.

If you had checked, then it may looklike you are scared by this board.

So the only thing that would have really been "bad" would have been a BIG bet.
 

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