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I hate Poker Stars - Sat Feb 26, 2011, 09:53 PM
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Something has to be going on here it seems this always happens. I'll have a day or two where I win most/all tourneys/cash tables i play and am up a lot.

Then I have a bunch of days where I can't win a single thing.

2 days ago i was up a lot, kept winning got lucky what not.

then the bad luck started. I can't win anything, I have aces,kings, queens and i dont win with those

then today it happens again, just such bad luck its unbelievable.

Im doing good in a tourney, I have K5 flop 246, the 3 comes sweet. I put a guy all in he has 7/5 of course for the nut straight.

VERY NEXT HAND: Pocket kings, I raise preflop,and of course the ace drops on the flop. he had aq and flopped 2 pair.

I have QJ shove my last few chips and 1 callers has kings.

and the list goes on and on.


Like seriously Every single time this cycle happens, I dont understand what the hell is going on I know how to play poker I know there are bad beats/unlucky but for it to be a cycle of good days bad days every time is unbelievable.\


Anyone else go through this, be unstoppable and run good for a day or two then luck is gone next few days


I had a bankroll of $30, got it up to $52 during the hot days, and I'm back down in the course of 2 days because I lose every time. EVERY ****ING TIME
 
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Sat Feb 26, 2011, 09:59 PM
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I play MTT's, and lose 87% of the ****ING TIME. My ROI's not where it needs to be yet, but I'm working on it. Maybe watch some of the new Live Training uploads. There are two new ones, and I'm looking forward to watching them.

Kind of ironic that they're called Live Training when they're reruns.

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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 04:16 AM
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down only $22 in two days and that has you tilted? you're not giving any bad beat stories here, if you're shoving with QJ you should be expecting to be called by a better hand. who would call with a worse hand than that?

i wouldn't worry about it but would encourage you to play smaller games if your bankroll is $52 and you're playing in games where you can lose that much in a couple of days. there's a reason why kings are called an "ace magnet" hand...i lose so often with that one that it's not even funny. last MTT i played i lost 88 to 44 (dude didn't even have to hit a 4).

i have good and bad runs (i'm sure everyone does) but i would illustrate a bad run with any example you gave there. to be more positive; i define a good run as the best hand holding most of the time - that's the best people can expect from this game. i understand your hate though; the site seems to have runner-runner bitch slapped my bankroll in a significant way this month. the other day i lost top set on the flop to bottom pair by the end of the hand, that's rough.

drop your stakes and play tighter is my advice. tho i'm a "losing player" right now on this site so you may want to disregard all i say
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 11:28 AM
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Only had you at table one time and have you noted as very loose ATC. Which means any 2 cards. You play way too many bad hands. Probably had a lucky run doing that and it makes you think it is right play. You said above you had K5...shouldn't have been in the hand and shouldn't have shoved on a draw since you were. Tighten up your play. Looks to me like you are depending too much on luck.
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 11:52 AM
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Im doing good in a tourney, I have K5 flop 246, the 3 comes sweet. I put a guy all in he has 7/5 of course for the nut straight.

VERY NEXT HAND: Pocket kings, I raise preflop,and of course the ace drops on the flop. he had aq and flopped 2 pair.

I have QJ shove my last few chips and 1 callers has kings.

and the list goes on and on.
Without knowing position or bets it's hard to judge, but you may be playing too loose. One of the hardest lessons I've had to learn (and am still learning) is to drop seemingly good hands.

Was K5 bb or at least sb without a raise pre-flop? Even on the button i'm loathe to play something like that. Did the other player go heavy when he hit his straight? If so that would have been time to evaluate your hand against possible other hands out there.

KK- Raise pre-flop is standard, once that Ace hit the felt you should have been very wary and be ready to fold on any heavy bet. More people will stick with an Ace even paired with a low card offsuit than any other card. Of course in either of these hands a suck out is a possibility.

QJ - When getting near to being blinded out ,position is very important. Ideally everyone else folds and minimizes the risk to you or it ends up head to head. So you have to evaluate the strength of your cards versus how close to the button you are.
 
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hehe - Sun Feb 27, 2011, 12:05 PM
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*********** # 40 **************
PokerStars Home Game #58345003791: {Drunk Tank} Tournament #366531029, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (30/60) - 2011/02/26 21:40:50 ET
Table '366531029 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: roomik17 (1717 in chips)
Seat 3: wemo35 (1165 in chips)
Seat 4: effsea (2050 in chips)
Seat 5: guitaplaya69 (3950 in chips)
Seat 6: JT_Sooooted (1170 in chips)
Seat 7: kvance1972 (845 in chips)
Seat 8: lasthippie12 (2335 in chips)
Seat 9: Ace King 61 (2408 in chips)
roomik17: posts the ante 5
wemo35: posts the ante 5
effsea: posts the ante 5
guitaplaya69: posts the ante 5
JT_Sooooted: posts the ante 5
kvance1972: posts the ante 5
lasthippie12: posts the ante 5
Ace King 61: posts the ante 5
wemo35: posts small blind 30
effsea: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to effsea [7s 5s]
guitaplaya69: calls 60
JT_Sooooted: calls 60
kvance1972: folds
lasthippie12: calls 60
Ace King 61: folds
roomik17: folds
wemo35: folds
effsea: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 4h 6s]
effsea: checks
guitaplaya69: checks
JT_Sooooted: checks
lasthippie12: bets 60
effsea: calls 60
guitaplaya69: calls 60
JT_Sooooted: folds
*** TURN *** [2c 4h 6s] [3c]
effsea: bets 300
guitaplaya69: raises 3525 to 3825 and is all-in
lasthippie12: folds
effsea: calls 1625 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1900) returned to guitaplaya69
*** RIVER *** [2c 4h 6s 3c] [3h]
guitaplaya69 said, "wow"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
effsea: shows [7s 5s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
guitaplaya69: shows [5h Kh] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
effsea collected 4340 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4340 | Rake 0
Board [2c 4h 6s 3c 3h]
Seat 2: roomik17 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wemo35 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: effsea (big blind) showed [7s 5s] and won (4340) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 5: guitaplaya69 showed [5h Kh] and lost with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 6: JT_Sooooted folded on the Flop
Seat 7: kvance1972 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: lasthippie12 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: Ace King 61 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

hiccup
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 04:16 PM
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*********** # 40 **************
PokerStars Home Game #58345003791: {Drunk Tank} Tournament #366531029, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (30/60) - 2011/02/26 21:40:50 ET
Table '366531029 4' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: roomik17 (1717 in chips)
Seat 3: wemo35 (1165 in chips)
Seat 4: effsea (2050 in chips)
Seat 5: guitaplaya69 (3950 in chips)
Seat 6: JT_Sooooted (1170 in chips)
Seat 7: kvance1972 (845 in chips)
Seat 8: lasthippie12 (2335 in chips)
Seat 9: Ace King 61 (2408 in chips)
roomik17: posts the ante 5
wemo35: posts the ante 5
effsea: posts the ante 5
guitaplaya69: posts the ante 5
JT_Sooooted: posts the ante 5
kvance1972: posts the ante 5
lasthippie12: posts the ante 5
Ace King 61: posts the ante 5
wemo35: posts small blind 30
effsea: posts big blind 60
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to effsea [7s 5s]
guitaplaya69: calls 60
JT_Sooooted: calls 60
kvance1972: folds
lasthippie12: calls 60
Ace King 61: folds
roomik17: folds
wemo35: folds
effsea: checks
*** FLOP *** [2c 4h 6s]
effsea: checks
guitaplaya69: checks
JT_Sooooted: checks
lasthippie12: bets 60
effsea: calls 60
guitaplaya69: calls 60
JT_Sooooted: folds
*** TURN *** [2c 4h 6s] [3c]
effsea: bets 300
guitaplaya69: raises 3525 to 3825 and is all-in
lasthippie12: folds
effsea: calls 1625 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (1900) returned to guitaplaya69
*** RIVER *** [2c 4h 6s 3c] [3h]
guitaplaya69 said, "wow"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
effsea: shows [7s 5s] (a straight, Three to Seven)
guitaplaya69: shows [5h Kh] (a straight, Deuce to Six)
effsea collected 4340 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4340 | Rake 0
Board [2c 4h 6s 3c 3h]
Seat 2: roomik17 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: wemo35 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: effsea (big blind) showed [7s 5s] and won (4340) with a straight, Three to Seven
Seat 5: guitaplaya69 showed [5h Kh] and lost with a straight, Deuce to Six
Seat 6: JT_Sooooted folded on the Flop
Seat 7: kvance1972 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: lasthippie12 folded on the Turn
Seat 9: Ace King 61 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

hiccup
Hahaha,you donk. Is this before or after you passed out?

Hiccup
 
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lol - Sun Feb 27, 2011, 04:22 PM
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Hahaha,you donk. Is this before or after you passed out?

Hiccup

lol. well this was when l was on my 2nd drunk of the day, but if you really look at the play,

he checked, rather than bet,hippie bet 60 chips, which was not going to get me off trying to catch, which allowed me to catch on the turn, also not seeing that l caught my card after l bet 300 chips, then he shoves, opps.......hiccup

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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 05:57 PM
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I'll admit sometimes I play way too loose like I did during the Drunk Tank Tourney

I did get lucky I'm not gonna lie, but I like changing it up, try to see a flop when blinds are really small and plus having a loose reputation helps in the long run sometimes because when I have a good hand people don't expect it.


And Im pretty much playing the lowest stakes possible I lose all my money on $1 or $2 tables I play a bunch and it all goes down the drain.

I think a lot of my bad play was being tilted. The K5 I think i was UTG I was definately not in a good position and I shouldn't have played the hand. I thought it worked out when I hit the 3 to give me the straight, didn't even think about a 7/5 as a possibility.

And when I got kings and the ace flopped, I was just so pissed I knew i was beat I just gave up and threw it in the middle. I knew he had the ace I just didn't want to believe it.

And the JQ i figured it was an OK hand to maybe steal some chips, I had plenty of chips and should not have shoved but ya I just got really upset and got way over tilted.

I know I made a lot of mistakes and dumb plays but I just hated how my good hands went down the crapper and I need to just let them go and wait for a better hand.

Im gonna play the Drunk Tank tourney next week hopefully and play 100% serious and know when to fold and when to play.

I feel better now I just get on bad tilt when my good hands never seem to hold up, just gotta sit out of poker for a few days and hope the unlucky stuff goes away. Just needed to vent my frustration, my girlfriend hates it cause I text her after every bad beat or when my hand doesn't hold up so needed a new place to vent

I think a good strategy that worked before is multi-table like 6 1/2cent cash tables, when I'm playing that many tables I tend to only play good hands so I normally win a good amount of money

I just gotta stop playing stupid, not tilt so much and I know I can win
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 06:26 PM
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cant play the tank loosey goosey, there are too many sharp players there... and they play much better than what you see in the pso. Get a clear head and come back firing
 
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Sun Feb 27, 2011, 06:30 PM
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cant play the tank loosey goosey, there are too many sharp players there... and they play much better than what you see in the pso. Get a clear head and come back firing
I play better drunk.
 
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Mon Feb 28, 2011, 02:16 AM
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Making this assertion requires a frame of reference,i.e.,that you have EVER played sober.
 
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Mon Feb 28, 2011, 02:20 AM
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Making this assertion requires a frame of reference,i.e.,that you have EVER played sober.
Yes. I'm not effsea, you know...
 
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err - Mon Feb 28, 2011, 07:32 AM
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come on, l played sober....................once......hiccup
 
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Mon Feb 28, 2011, 09:54 AM
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come on, l played sober....................once......hiccup
I still doubt the existence of this event.

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Mon Feb 28, 2011, 06:48 PM
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come on, l played sober....................once......hiccup
I don't think playing drunk hurts my poker playing at all. But, I have to learn not to get on the forum drunk. This must never happen again:

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