Home / Community / Forum / Support Area / Poker News /

Flop to Turn...Or Flop to River?

Flop to Turn...Or Flop to River? - Mon Feb 28, 2011, 08:01 AM
tomrankin51's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 242
Hello everyone

I haven't been around much, so for those I made friends with last year hello again :-)

Let me come back with a fairly basic question, but I suppose an important one - especially for beginners.

*** EDIT *** - I decided to re-word the question, as I felt I didn't work it correctly first time...so...

What would be a correct situation to calculate your drawing odds for two cards to come? To me, making this calculation could mean you stay in hands when it's past it's best (think on an inside straight draw), and comparing it to the pot odds is false as more money would inevitably have to go in on the turn.

Therefore, to me, calculating with two cards to come is only valid in two situations :
a) Your opponent has gone all in on the flop;
b) You're looking at an implied odds situation and are seeing the hand out to the river;

Even with option B, you would look to fold the hand on the turn if it didn't hit anyway so it might not be appropriate even in that situation.

Have I understood this right or not? It seems as though differing strategies give different recommendations. A book I'm reading atm suggests calculating to the turn (ie x4), and I hear that Devilfish works out his odds like this exclusively. Yet, other strategies insist on calculating to the next card only. I'd love to hear other viewpoints on it.

Thanks in advance for any replies.


Last edited by tomrankin51; Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 01:21 PM..

Getting PokerStars is easy: download and install the PokerStars game software, create your free player account, and validate your email address. Clicking on the download poker button will lead to the installation of compatible poker software on your PC of 51.7 MB, which will enable you to register and play poker on the PokerStars platform. To uninstall PokerStars use the Windows uninstaller: click Start > Control Panel and then select Add or Remove programs > Select PokerStars and click Uninstall or Remove.

Copyright (c) PokerSchoolOnline.com. All rights reserved, Rational Group, Douglas Bay Complex, King Edward Road, Onchan, Isle of Man, IM3 1DZ. You can email us on support@pokerschoolonline.com