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gonna try and have a better attitude this month - Tue Mar 01, 2011, 12:10 PM
nas388car's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 190
1st game of the month, this guy was fairly loose so with this pre-flop bet i put him on maybe AK, AQ so i call, after the flop u can see why i pushed and the end result, so i guess my question is should i have bet more pre-flop or was this a good move on my part with an ugly outcome........................................... ......................................PokerStars Game #58479742334: Tournament #368288524, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/03/01 10:50:31 ET
Table '368288524 72' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: thewelcher (2410 in chips)
Seat 2: BuckPD (1080 in chips)
Seat 3: Trips2winsui (4295 in chips)
Seat 4: courtsam (2075 in chips)
Seat 5: golfman927 (3975 in chips)
Seat 6: nas388car (5535 in chips)
Seat 7: jambo43212 (975 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: mrzzz111 (1240 in chips)
Seat 9: bongnara (3277 in chips)
thewelcher: posts small blind 100
BuckPD: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nas388car [Td Ts]
Trips2winsui: calls 200
courtsam: folds
golfman927: folds
nas388car: calls 200
jambo43212: folds
mrzzz111: folds
bongnara: folds
thewelcher: raises 385 to 585
BuckPD: folds
Trips2winsui: calls 385
nas388car: calls 385
*** FLOP *** [5h 6c 6h]
thewelcher: bets 650
Trips2winsui: folds
nas388car: raises 4300 to 4950 and is all-in
thewelcher: calls 1175 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3125) returned to nas388car
*** TURN *** [5h 6c 6h] [3s]
*** RIVER *** [5h 6c 6h 3s] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
thewelcher: shows [Qs Ks] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
nas388car: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Tens and Sixes)
thewelcher collected 5605 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5605 | Rake 0
Board [5h 6c 6h 3s Kd]
Seat 1: thewelcher (small blind) showed [Qs Ks] and won (5605) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 2: BuckPD (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: Trips2winsui folded on the Flop
Seat 4: courtsam folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: golfman927 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: nas388car showed [Td Ts] and lost with two pair, Tens and Sixes
Seat 7: jambo43212 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: mrzzz111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bongnara (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
.................................................. .................................................. .......... I want to keep a better attitude about this game and i need help in reading players and hand situations, iv'e read and reread the articles and the courses over and over again, because it's obvious that the problem lies in my game and never in other players that beat me, so can someone tell me what i should have done differently in this case.
Tue Mar 01, 2011, 12:13 PM
antlovesang1's Avatar
Since: May 2010
Posts: 931
forget this hand nas why on earth he is calling your flop all in i dont know maybe you shouldnt have shoved and put a nice bet out there then call his shove but you did no wrong from what i see
Tue Mar 01, 2011, 04:21 PM
TheLangolier's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,501
(Head Trainer)
I would have raised preflop with TT to isolate the limper. Also, after limping and having a 12 bb stack raise to 3x (he should have shoved over the two of you limping in, not standard raise, on his stack size), I would shove to pressure out the EP limper and get it HU with the raiser. Post flop the money is too shallow to not get it in here.
Tue Mar 01, 2011, 04:52 PM
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I have to disagee with you on this one.

UTG may not have made a strong play but the PSO has shown that people limp/call more often than limp/fold.So no matter the raise you will get them calling within reason.Im talking about 3xbb-5xbb.
With the stacks behind Seat 8,1 and 2 both being short,I would lean towards setmining with Tens.
People shortstaked in the blinds are more likely to shove or be overly aggressive.
You could argue that is why you raise preflop,but the PSO shows that raising doesnt get you the prefered out come as often as you like.

Setmine and see the flop and if one of the blinds shoves and UTG folds,call if off.
If UTG calls I might dump it since Tens dont play to well 3 way.

Just a difference in opinion.
Tue Mar 01, 2011, 04:55 PM
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Letting a blind raise will bring it back to you and you can adjust as needed.
If you raise SB and BB call and then UTG tags along just cause.

If you have a overly aggressive player in the blinds I let them do the betting and when it comes around you can shove or call and worst fold if 3 way.
Tue Mar 01, 2011, 07:06 PM
nas388car's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 190
In these kinds of Trny's is it better to fold and wait for a better time, Both of these guys where calling everything under the sun............................................... .................................................. ..............PokerStars Game #58505605244: Tournament #409010742, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2011/03/01 18:37:13 ET
Table '409010742 265' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: wrmach (5115 in chips)
Seat 2: nas388car (2130 in chips)
Seat 3: pslz17 (2925 in chips)
Seat 4: Bipolady (10580 in chips)
Seat 5: sharkyrea (4145 in chips)
Seat 6: giggles313 (3815 in chips)
Seat 7: nish1811 (6625 in chips)
Seat 8: HonzaCZE (5041 in chips)
Seat 9: PotGeier666 (1635 in chips)
sharkyrea: posts small blind 25
giggles313: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nas388car [Ad Ah]
nish1811: folds
HonzaCZE: folds
PotGeier666: raises 1550 to 1600
wrmach: calls 1600
nas388car: raises 530 to 2130 and is all-in
pslz17: folds
Bipolady: folds
sharkyrea: folds
giggles313: folds
PotGeier666: calls 35 and is all-in
wrmach: calls 530
*** FLOP *** [4c 3d Th]
*** TURN *** [4c 3d Th] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [4c 3d Th Tc] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wrmach: shows [Td Ts] (four of a kind, Tens)
nas388car: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
wrmach collected 990 from side pot
PotGeier666: shows [As 2h] (a pair of Tens)
wrmach collected 4980 from main pot
nas388car finished the tournament in 2708th place
PotGeier666 finished the tournament in 2709th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5970 Main pot 4980. Side pot 990. | Rake 0
Board [4c 3d Th Tc 7h]
Seat 1: wrmach showed [Td Ts] and won (5970) with four of a kind, Tens
Seat 2: nas388car showed [Ad Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 3: pslz17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bipolady (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sharkyrea (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: giggles313 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: nish1811 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: HonzaCZE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: PotGeier666 showed [As 2h] and lost with a pair of Tens

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