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OK Class.......... - Wed Mar 02, 2011, 05:22 PM
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Here's what we learned today............

A. Making prop bets in the forum and welching on them---OK

B. Lying about having ever made the bets in question--- OK

C. Talking about this bit of classless,pathetic chicanery--- NOT OK

Chances this thread will NOT be closed before the bottom of the hour--- ZERO
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 05:28 PM
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Your supposed to post stuff like this in the suggestion box so they can ignore it and you get a false
hope that they are listening.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtyrubberz View Post
Your supposed to post stuff like this in the suggestion box so they can ignore it and you get a false
hope that they are listening.


Isn't that the truth. Any suggestion sent to PokerStars comes back with a canned reply. If you translate the diplomatic lingo, their message is:

Dear sir/madame,

Shove your suggestions up your (censored) as we don't give a (explative deleted) what you think.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 06:00 PM
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I know the internet, so I know this is a mostly pointless attempt, but . . . moderating is HARD. Don't get all riled up unless you've tried it - civil discusions are few and far between on the net for a reason. Well, many reasons, but you know what I mean.

I'm new, so I won't try and debate the specifics of this situation. But in general, building a civil community requires a LOT of people being willing to be more tolerent and generous towards the bad eggs than those bad eggs really deserve. Sure, sometimes you need to take a hard line, but the hard line shouldn't be the first step, even with a "known offender." At least, that's what my experience tells me.

Usually, that's all way too much work and the best attitude is "it's just the internet - live with it."
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 06:08 PM
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Moderating is hard when you have to do more than type closed thread and fire off a copy of the rules to the offender.

Mods should be active in the forum,not lurking in the background.
They should be able to give reasons why they closed a thread.
Ive said it before and every time they close a thread with no reasoning it will get worse.
You need to be accountable to the forum and the PSO,you cant just be a lap dog for PSO and expect respect from the forum members,it doesnt work like that.

This is a half gripe on the mods but I think a lot of the blame can be put on PSO.
They set the rules and they are the ones absent in all of this.
I know they are around,since the "who is online" feature shows them lurking quite often.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtyrubberz View Post
Moderating is hard when you have to do more than type closed thread and fire off a copy of the rules to the offender.

Mods should be active in the forum,not lurking in the background.
They should be able to give reasons why they closed a thread.
Ive said it before and every time they close a thread with no reasoning it will get worse.
You need to be accountable to the forum and the PSO,you cant just be a lap dog for PSO and expect respect from the forum members,it doesnt work like that.

This is a half gripe on the mods but I think a lot of the blame can be put on PSO.
They set the rules and they are the ones absent in all of this.
I know they are around,since the "who is online" feature shows them lurking quite often.
What he said^^^^^^^^^
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 06:43 PM
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For the record - I agree, if you're trying to do good job moderating, giving reasons is needed. Extensive debate/explanation of those reasons can sometimes be just as damaging as not giving any, but a basic reason is needed. Otherwise, you can't expect behavior to change in the manner you desire.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 06:44 PM
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Or she
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 07:41 PM
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All good stuff here, especially about the suggestion box thread and that false hope feeling that they even look at it.
But in regards to the mods, closing a thread really doesn't solve whatever the problem might be. It is true it is actually making things worse. Part of the enjoyment out of the forum is seeing what some people think or feel about different subjects usually related to but not exclusive to poker. When you have so many different personalities on here you are going to have "clashes". And for the most part they are just spirited debate. But occasionally you get something that brings out a little more than that. For example, the Tazz "fast curve" challenge. If the challenge actually had some merit or if Tazz was a respected player in the league, the responses in that thread would likely have been much nicer. Unfortunately neither of those things is true. And it doesn't help that these "problem" threads usually have an OP who will not try to extinguish the flames but throw more wood on the fire, which makes the thread burn longer and much hotter. I would say that when the flames are burning at forest fire levels and people are making indecent comments, then it is time for the moderator to step up and be the hero. As it currently stands, the moderators are looking like the villians here. Which is a shame because the actual staff has all but vanished, leaving the work for these mods to deal with. I would not want to be a moderator for fear that I, as with them, would abuse the power. Hopefully they come back to earth soon.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 10:11 PM
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bump
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtyrubberz View Post
Moderating is hard ...
Couldn't disagree with you more here rubberz. For me, moderating would be pretty damn easy. Threads would be spinning out of control--nothing would ever get closed--I'd be drinking a beer and wondering how hard I should push my 97 off this time.

Seriously, if two people want to beat each other to death in a thread, why do I give a crap. If it is amusing, I'll grab popcorn and watch. If not, I'll ignore it.

When people lose me, I don't go into their threads any more. Unless of course, I see you or someone else I like to read is the last post. Then I go for insght or humor.

My point is I self moderate. And if I was the mod, everyone else would have to self moderate too.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 11:36 PM
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Its like that now,ok..
just remember who started what!

Misquote me and its on like Donkey Kong.
 
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Wed Mar 02, 2011, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirtyrubberz View Post

me like Donkey
LOL
 

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