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shoulda been pocket J's all in pre?

shoulda been pocket J's all in pre? - Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:18 AM
hiphoplives's Avatar
Since: Nov 2010
Posts: 516
tried to just see the flop so maybe i could fold.....how the hell do u play jacks? i have tried EVERY way in every position i swear.

PokerStars Game #58793766432: Tournament #372230711, $0.10+$0.00 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/03/07 1:10:07 ET
Table '372230711 38' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: MITY2002 (3620 in chips)
Seat 2: SAWA800 (3220 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 3: el poder36 (660 in chips)
Seat 4: hiphoplives (1560 in chips)
Seat 5: turn-or-rivr (1070 in chips)
Seat 6: pshinau (1310 in chips)
Seat 7: notprtty (1080 in chips)
Seat 8: fishworm249 (400 in chips)
Seat 9: BobSur (3830 in chips)
MITY2002: posts small blind 15
SAWA800: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hiphoplives [Jc Jd]
el poder36: calls 30
hiphoplives: raises 120 to 150
turn-or-rivr: folds
pshinau: folds
notprtty: folds
fishworm249: raises 250 to 400 and is all-in
BobSur: folds

MITY2002: calls 385
SAWA800: folds
el poder36: calls 370
hiphoplives: calls 250
*** FLOP *** [6h 4h 9c]
MITY2002: bets 450
el poder36: calls 260 and is all-in
hiphoplives: raises 710 to 1160 and is all-in
MITY2002: calls 710
*** TURN *** [6h 4h 9c] [2h]
*** RIVER *** [6h 4h 9c 2h] [2d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***
MITY2002: shows [6s 2s] (a full house, Deuces full of Sixes) grrrrr...!!!!!
hiphoplives: shows [Jc Jd] (two pair, Jacks and Deuces)
MITY2002 collected 1800 from side pot-2
el poder36: shows [8s Ad] (a pair of Deuces)
MITY2002 collected 780 from side pot-1
fishworm249: shows [Qs Kc] (a pair of Deuces)
MITY2002 collected 1630 from main pot
hiphoplives finished the tournament in 213th place
el poder36 finished the tournament in 214th place
fishworm249 finished the tournament in 215th place
APATSI808 is connected
grandma9 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4210 Main pot 1630. Side pot-1 780. Side pot-2 1800. | Rake 0
Board [6h 4h 9c 2h 2d]
Seat 1: MITY2002 (small blind) showed [6s 2s] and won (4210) with a full house, Deuces full of Sixes
Seat 2: SAWA800 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: el poder36 showed [8s Ad] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 4: hiphoplives showed [Jc Jd] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Deuces
Seat 5: turn-or-rivr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: pshinau folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: notprtty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: fishworm249 showed [Qs Kc] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 9: BobSur (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:20 AM
PanickyPoker's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,168
In the 10 cent turbos I just jam them for value, knowing I'll get called by KTo and 76s (sometimes, anyway). Your open was fine, but I would have reshipped preflop.
Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:24 AM
hiphoplives's Avatar
Since: Nov 2010
Posts: 516
exactly was my first thought....shoulda gone with it...

i was about to raise all in after MITY2002 just called.....but then i thought.."well, i guess i could see the flop and see the board texture or if there's overs" and push right there if good. and it was.....i hate jacks.
Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:29 AM
mcrissinger's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,650
Level 2 of a $.10 is shove and pray. That was just stupid luck on his part.

People are going to call after the flop with any A high there most of the time, so JJ can lose any number of ways. This was just weird and nasty.
Mon Mar 07, 2011, 01:54 AM
RockerguyAA's Avatar
Since: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,089
In those 10 cent SNG turbos I folded JJ preflop to a raise & reraise before me twice and both times I would have won. Both times people turned over AQo or worse. People play really crazy in that SNG, I would just get it in preflo with JJ and hope it's good... in the long run it should pay off in this specific tournament.
Mon Mar 07, 2011, 02:09 AM
Moxie Pip's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,853
Yeah hip in those .10 360's just jam away with the big hands early and hope you hold or catch if behind. No sense playing coy as it's just Shoveapalooza in those anyway. I'm the same way in the .10 $50 added MTT's now, the Hell with trying to play poker early in them or coming off a good hand because THEY'RE dumb. Get it in and either stack up for a good run or load up the next one. You'll never cash enough in these to see any kind of return on the min-cash levels so play big. If it's bubble time and you're short that's the time to start thinking about taking what you can get,but early in these dimer's throw out conventional wisdom and get your shove monkey on.

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