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zeurrr- Sunday Mill $500k Forfeited - Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:48 AM
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The guy who didn't want to make the chop and then demanded 150k more before going along has just lost his $500k winnings

Pokerstars Holland Representative Simon Keijzer tells Dutch TV show Jimmy Jonker is registered as a 19-year old, while he is 17 years old at the moment. Keijzer declares that an under-aged shouldn’t have played the tournament and he will not be entitled to the prize money (March 9, 12.15 GMT).


MORAL OF THE STORY;
This is why Rules should always be followed at the tables and in the Forums you never know when it going to come back and bite you for breaking the rules
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 07:02 AM
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Jesus, I am sure that the guy feels as sick as a parrot.

I wonder if they would have checked if he had just kept his mouth closed and agreed to the chop. I think though that they probably checked everyone at the final table.

Good job there are no mountains in Holland, as I would be jumping off the nearest one if that happened to me.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 08:12 AM
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this is why pokerstars should varify everyone before playing
if this was a casino he would have to show an ID before being allowed to even sit at a cash table let alone play a multi-million dollar tournament

and the rules should be a requirement to get your ticket for the skill league

as i had stated before as well as others here even though this won't stop people from breaking the rules you would have more imformed players out there to be vigalent against cheating and other forms of violations





so now what
does the next person in line get the money, no-one gets it, the leader? how do you determine the harm he caused throughout the tournament?
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 08:53 AM
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hahahahahahaha

a demanding spoilt little brat/teenager now we know the reason for ''i want 600k''

serves him right!! how on earth could he expect to final table and recieve 500k knowing full well hes only 17???

in regards to the money winner should get half because what 1 hll of a game he played and the rest split between the final 7 !
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 09:03 AM
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what about the person who bubbled the final table
he only got @ $10k while ninth got @ $260k i bet he's real pissed knowing that if the age of players was varified he would be $250k richer today
what about the last person he took out or crippled with a double up could that person say i could have final tabled if this didn't happen

a lot of what ifs here and i'm sure as the news gets out there will be some PO'd players
it's due time for poker stars to check the ID of every player to eliminate this from happening again

 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 09:07 AM
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what about the person who bubbled the final table
he only got @ $10k while ninth got @ $260k i bet he's real pissed knowing that if the age of players was varified he would be $250k richer today
what about the last person he took out or crippled with a double up could that person say i could have final tabled if this didn't happen

a lot of what ifs here and i'm sure as the news gets out there will be some PO'd players
it's due time for poker stars to check the ID of every player to eliminate this from happening again

actually yes i 100% agree with you here i reckon the money should be split between the winner and 10th finsh seen as he will automatically be premoted to 9th which was 260k
 
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?? - Wed Mar 09, 2011, 09:19 AM
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is a huge mess 4 sure- im bored- so i will throw this out there- seeing as how the deal was reached with 9 left at the FT- take the amount of chips zeurr had when he arrived at the FT- search his hand history- note every pot he won from anyone and how many chips- so if player A lost 10 k in chips to the guy- # of chips at FT divided by chips lost= % ---award that % of the prize to that player-kinda like ICM-- doubt it will happen- yet that would be the fairest i can come up with- and prob a nice chunk of change for all those who lost pots to the offender- gl all - monk...

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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:19 AM
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this would never happen live, i am amazed that a 17 yr old could pull off this huge accomplishment, but it's very disappointing to see the rules were broken and so many will be effected by his childish acts..should the money be split between the 8 players or should the 10th player get his winnings and become a final table member now.. this may sound stupid, but i say all who was ko by this guy should be refunded their 215 back in cash, tourney dollars or whatever due to the fact this guy should have never played, i bet ps start verifying new members for now..look out for new security features from pstars..
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:54 AM
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oh my gawd are you serious??? What an epic fail lol
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 11:00 AM
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AHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!! What a horror story. I do feel a little bit bad for him though...

I find this story very disturbing as well. How did this happen??!?!! When I signed up with Pokerstars a few years ago I had to give them my drivers license info and everything!

I'm assuming he never deposited, which would mean he turned $0 into $500,000 and now can't withdraw a dime... FAIL of truely epic proportions.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 07:23 PM
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Just found this from another site:

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Warning!! Wall of text! Short version: Google translated article from a danish poker news site (pokernyhederne.com) about the player zeurrr either playing underaged or his father played in his place which might also be a bit sketchy. Long version: There are doubts about who is the holder of the PokerStars account named 'zeurrr', which yesterday reached number 5 in the Sunday Million for $ 518,402. Father and son are mystery protagonists. The Dutch PokerStars player 'zeurrr' was anything but at home in Sunday's fifth-anniversary edition of the Sunday Million at PokerStars. Just five hours before kick off he qualified through a $ 2.20 satellite to debut in the weekly tournament. Yet he managed to get past more than 59,000 opponents and go from the tournament with $ 518,402 after the controversial deal at the final table start. He finished in fifth place. The huge score reached a journalist from the country's second largest newspaper, Algemeen Dagblad, ear, and he decided to try to get in touch with the local newly minted half-millionaire. writes MPCpoker.com. In a Dutch poker forum took the journalist to the conclusion that 'zeurrr' also uses the alias 'jiminho3' and on the Twitter profile of the same name it had owner set to Jimmy Jonker. The journalist found Jimmy Jonkers phone, but was much to his surprise greeted by Jimmy Jonkers father who argued that it was he who had played the tournament and won more than $500.000. It surprised the journalist overly, but he since found out Jos Jonkers son Jimmy is only 17 years old and thus not old enough to play on PokerStars. Since then, Twitter profile changed appearance. Initially the name was simply changed to the father's name Jos Jonker, but the profile is now completely closed. PokerStars has not made any official statement on the matter. Source: http://www.pokernyhederne.com/poker-...gagevinst.html
And lets put this into some context:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Obrestad


I feel Pokerstars are making the poor lad a scapegoat because of his behaviour at the final table. If they are not, then why do they not go after Annette Obrestad who made huge winnings on pokerstars when she was 15.

Would the fact that Annette's father is Jewish, just like the owners of Pokerstars, have something to do with the double standards that they are applying here?

Just saying asTazz would say.

TC
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 07:42 PM
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Just found this from another site:



And lets put this into some context:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annette_Obrestad


I feel Pokerstars are making the poor lad a scapegoat because of his behaviour at the final table. If they are not, then why do they not go after Annette Obrestad who made huge winnings on pokerstars when she was 15.

Would the fact that Annette's father is Jewish, just like the owners of Pokerstars, have something to do with the double standards that they are applying here?

Just saying asTazz would say.

TC
Thats a wee bit inflamatory aint it?...... ahh just saw something interesting..
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 08:34 PM
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the money will go to a charity as this is not the 1st time nor last time this will happen and in the Past PS has given the money they confiscated to a charity of there choice


as for them checking every ones ID this not going to happen as i said this not the 1st time this has happen and i entered several casinos and played and drank when i was 19 so to say they ID ya as soon as you in a casino is just LOL

From what i have heard over the Years PS does ID checks on any players who FT big events Including the Nightly 100k if they have not been verified

I assume once Poker gets regulated in the USA then we see them checking IDs but I really doubt we see it until then as it be a time consuming job
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 08:38 PM
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i dont want to sound like a complete tw*t or skingy git but why not check his hand history see every1 he knocked out of the tourney pay them there guy in back and let 10th place have a nice sum of it ??
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:04 PM
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I want my $215 back under protest LOL...
Whats the odds of a bunch of people complaining to try get their money back would they give in?
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:10 PM
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First - Social networking. Geez ladies. Grow a freaking pair and get out and do some man shit.

Second - WTF does it matter if Poker Stars honchos are juice?

Last edited by RedLetterman; Wed Mar 09, 2011 at 10:26 PM..
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:15 PM
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I want my $215 back under protest LOL...
Whats the odds of a bunch of people complaining to try get their money back would they give in?
Well i doubt this would make any difference as if it was Plain cheating (MA or Collusion ect.) but the underage thing is a TOS violation

And if they were to give the $500k back to the players 10th would still hate life as he would get none and it would be divided among the FT as those were the players involved in the Chop

This is just my opinion as an 8 year PS player that has seen this happen many times in the past as in how they deal with it
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:29 PM
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17 year old kid... wow...

im 23 and i feel like an idiot...

im 23 struggling to make living while having a full time job without a college degree due to inability to afford college education trying to make few hundred bucks in a tourney spending more than $1000 in a year... ...

ugh....

am i not intelligent or sub-intelligent?

i feel bad!
 
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I would take a refund,,, - Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:46 PM
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or settle for a free entry for having to have played amoung uneligible players,,,,wonder how many more there might have been? sheeesh I wonder if I played against him? Little brat,,,, I want more,,,,blah blah blah,,,,,his being there,,,, affected whole tourny,,,,, seat changes,,,, from table to table,,,,,,ugggg
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 10:53 PM
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Funnier yet is the winner is a known scammer as well.
He pretended to be a girl to get free coaching from some hard up poker players and even went
as far as having cyber sex with one of them.
Talk about wtf!!
 

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