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Raising 2.5x Early in Tournaments

 
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Raising 2.5x Early in Tournaments - Wed Mar 09, 2011, 01:34 PM
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PokerStars Game #58921903584: Tournament #368288566, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/03/09 10:06:22 PT [2011/03/09 13:06:22 ET]
Table '368288566 51' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: K0CTP0/\/\A (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: juvearebent (1560 in chips)
Seat 3: ROYLFLSHHNTR (960 in chips)
Seat 4: rhyker26 (1400 in chips)
Seat 5: DARTHTATER (1440 in chips)
Seat 6: ronnieg1974 (2400 in chips)
Seat 7: d_kwach (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: PaidInFull6 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: DeeNice002 (1300 in chips)
DARTHTATER: posts small blind 10
ronnieg1974: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PaidInFull6 [Ah As]
d_kwach: folds
PaidInFull6: raises 35 to 55
DeeNice002: folds
K0CTP0/\/\A: folds
juvearebent: calls 55
ROYLFLSHHNTR: folds
rhyker26: calls 55
DARTHTATER: folds
ronnieg1974: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 9d 4d]
PaidInFull6: bets 110
juvearebent: raises 190 to 300
rhyker26: raises 1045 to 1345 and is all-in
PaidInFull6: folds
juvearebent: calls 1045
*** TURN *** [3d 9d 4d] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3d 9d 4d 6s] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
juvearebent: shows [8d 3h] (a pair of Threes)
rhyker26: shows [5d Qd] (a flush, Queen high)
juvearebent is sitting out
rhyker26 collected 2995 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2995 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9d 4d 6s Qh]
Seat 1: K0CTP0/\/\A folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: juvearebent showed [8d 3h] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 3: ROYLFLSHHNTR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: rhyker26 (button) showed [5d Qd] and won (2995) with a flush, Queen high
Seat 5: DARTHTATER (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: ronnieg1974 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: d_kwach folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: PaidInFull6 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: DeeNice002 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I often make this kind of raise early in tournaments with most hands I choose to raise with. Often I get 2+ callers and my raising range is fairly tight, but when I get this much action and I get raised on the flop It is usually a very tough decision and hard to figure what hands my opponents might be holding. With 2+ callers It is not uncommon to get raised like this, sometimes I am up against a lesser hand, sometimes I am up against a monster, but no matter what they hold It never easy to figure where I stand. Should I be making this raise size early in tournaments or should I just open to 4x-5x and invite less action in exchange for easier decisions? Any thoughts are helpful and appreciated.
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 02:50 PM
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raise is too small for me, I like to let the donks know I got something, or have them think I am stealing, 2.5 BB that early is nothing, when you are 50 bb deep. I would raise 5BB at least. Post flop great fold too many people... me included find it really hard to fold AA ... overall good read you saved a lot of cash there
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 03:15 PM
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I like the raise sizing personally, I play it the same way which makes pot controling easier post flop. I don't mind playing pots post flop with "donks", they are where value comes from. Early in tournies when the stacks are still deep you definitely have to be able to get away from 1 pair hands when you are likely beat.. This seems to be the case here, good fold imo. Like roomik said too many players get married to their premium pair. On this depth of money, with this board and action, it's time for a quick annulment.

Dave
 
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Wed Mar 09, 2011, 06:30 PM
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Thanks for the thoughts, these folds aren't always so easy for me. This one seemed like a clear fold but I have had similar action on much dryer boards and don't always get away.
 

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