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I can't win - Thu Mar 10, 2011, 04:51 AM
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I played aggressively preflop and post flop against a loose passive callingstation in a sit and go and lost with set over set

i had 10 10 he had AA............ I was in the middle, hijack(him with AA) calls and button calls

flo comes A 3 8 i bet 1/2 pot he just calls

turn is a 10 i shove he calls

can't i stop running bad? i mean set over set.......... my AA has been getting cracked by 76o left and right past weekend, my AA got strucked by sets yesterday playing SNG

and when i really need chips AGAIN i constantly run into AA when i really need them...

what is wrong with me...

final table in january.... was that just pure luck for me? i can't win without luck? i feel stupid now.... should i quit for good? .............
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 04:58 AM
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variance is a beech and downswing can last a frigging life time.
why quit ? if you enjoy playing the game and have the %s to back your hand up in the long run they will work in your favour we all forget the times we hit runner runner or 2 card outs to win the pot but when we get sucked out we remember these for weeks and we assume it is happening alot of the time..

just remember every blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while...
stick to your game let your hands do the talking
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 05:16 AM
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I haven't been able to win annything for over a month ........ ugh.................. i feel hopeless....
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 05:29 AM
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remindes me of the ugliest hand i've ever seen......my friend sat right next to me, just getting to the table, he's UTG his first hand and raises to 20....flat call.....flat call......

Flop 3 handed .........

3 J 7..... friend pushes remaining 80$ ...........call.......ALL IN .....CALL.

Friend : pocket 7's

player 1 : pocket J's

player 2 : pocket 3's

Jacks won. i have only seen this one time. set set set flop.........all in

what would u do?.....lol
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 05:59 AM
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without seeing the betting or blind structure i couldnt give my opinion hip hop you have more detail??

but yes ive never seen that happen and he must have felt ill
 
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2/5 cash game - Thu Mar 10, 2011, 06:06 AM
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2/5 cash game....
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 06:15 AM
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with 3 callers you would have to consider that they have flat called with some kind of pocket pair or ace and good kicker so im guessing if he was 1st to act unless the others guys were in the blinds i would have made a continuation bet of $20 on the flop and woudnt be folding to an all in so i guess he got unlucky to run into jj although at them stakes i dont know why jj is flat calling pre flop
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 06:20 AM
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just now.....

PokerStars Game #58959933863: Tournament #373337889, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2011/03/10 6:18:11 ET
Table '373337889 2' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: blackbeny (1690 in chips)
Seat 3: tchigli (90 in chips)
Seat 4: hiphoplives (4730 in chips)
Seat 5: RoliCaparica (3650 in chips)
Seat 6: zlobenegoist (8050 in chips)
Seat 7: leimhan (2470 in chips)
Seat 8: PATRONon (735 in chips)
Seat 9: Reiternammen (3190 in chips)
zlobenegoist: posts small blind 100
leimhan: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hiphoplives [9s 9h]
PATRONon: folds
Reiternammen: folds
blackbeny: folds
tchigli: calls 90 and is all-in
hiphoplives: calls 200
RoliCaparica: folds
zlobenegoist: calls 100
leimhan: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c Tc Ah]
zlobenegoist: checks
leimhan: checks
hiphoplives: bets 600
zlobenegoist: raises 7250 to 7850 and is all-in
leimhan: folds
hiphoplives: calls 3930 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (3320) returned to zlobenegoist
*** TURN *** [9c Tc Ah] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [9c Tc Ah Qh] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
zlobenegoist: shows [Kc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
hiphoplives: shows [9s 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
zlobenegoist collected 9390 from side pot
tchigli: shows [3d 8d] (high card Ace)
zlobenegoist collected 360 from main pot
hiphoplives finished the tournament in 20th place
tchigli finished the tournament in 21st place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9750 Main pot 360. Side pot 9390. | Rake 0
Board [9c Tc Ah Qh 4c]
Seat 2: blackbeny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: tchigli showed [3d 8d] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 4: hiphoplives showed [9s 9h] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: RoliCaparica (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: zlobenegoist (small blind) showed [Kc Ac] and won (9750) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 7: leimhan (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: PATRONon folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Reiternammen folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 06:27 AM
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ouch unlucky cant blame the caller though top pair top kicker and nut flush draw
 
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when will it stop?? - Thu Mar 10, 2011, 06:48 AM
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when will it stop??

PokerStars Game #58960660472: Tournament #373348243, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/03/10 6:46:11 ET
Table '373348243 4' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: hiphoplives (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: jumblePATR (1460 in chips)
Seat 3: keesjee (1370 in chips)
Seat 4: dnlgomes06 (580 in chips)
Seat 5: JOker5tar69 (1720 in chips)
Seat 6: sini4kin (1500 in chips)
Seat 7: Raulcs1983 (1440 in chips)
Seat 8: hitokiri81 (1500 in chips)
Seat 9: serg2496 (2430 in chips)
Raulcs1983: posts small blind 10
hitokiri81: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hiphoplives [As Kh]
serg2496: calls 20
hiphoplives: raises 140 to 160
jumblePATR: folds
keesjee: folds
dnlgomes06: folds
JOker5tar69: calls 160
sini4kin: folds
Raulcs1983: calls 150
hitokiri81: folds
serg2496: raises 2270 to 2430 and is all-in
hiphoplives: calls 1340 and is all-in
JOker5tar69: folds
Raulcs1983: folds
Uncalled bet (930) returned to serg2496
*** FLOP *** [2s Qc 5s]
*** TURN *** [2s Qc 5s] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [2s Qc 5s 2d] [Js]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
serg2496: shows [Qh Ah] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
hiphoplives: shows [As Kh] (a pair of Deuces)
serg2496 collected 3340 from pot
hiphoplives finished the tournament in 41st place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3340 | Rake 0
Board [2s Qc 5s 2d Js]
Seat 1: hiphoplives showed [As Kh] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 2: jumblePATR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: keesjee folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: dnlgomes06 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: JOker5tar69 folded before Flop
Seat 6: sini4kin (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Raulcs1983 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: hitokiri81 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: serg2496 showed [Qh Ah] and won (3340) with two pair, Queens and Deuces
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 07:29 AM
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Last hand I played the dude knocked me out with bottom versus top pair, donk hit trips on the river. Fairly standard for my horrible run on this site. Variance like I've never heard of. Two month downswing and I'm about ready to cash out and forget this BS site. Why isn't there another with the great variety of games this one has? Don't whine about 10s losing against Aces, that's the way it should be - the best hand holding up. Something I don't know anything about right now.
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 07:58 AM
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its just a bunch of rigged crap is what i say my KK gets killed by ace Rag QQ beat by Ace Rag when and ace has been on the flop a million times before hand but yet its the only single high card thats on the frggin table? its bs
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 08:00 AM
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everyone has AQ AJ A 10 i Have KK who wins?

They all split the pot some kinda magic bs im the only on out an ace is the first card on the flop
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 08:22 AM
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@ HipHop

AK and AQ are both drawing hands.

You are UTG+1 and a 7x raise this early in position and this early in the tournament and with the blinds so low, invites too many callers and there will always be one willing to go all in and double up on you with a decent hand.

Off course your hand dominated his and you are praying it will hold but if a Queen appears the roles are reversed.

The lessons are not to overcook any hand in early position, not to put your tounament life at risk so early in the tournament and not just to look at the lovely AK and think that you should win the hand of right. Take a few rounds to get a read on who you are up against, choose your starting hands accordingly and wait until you are in a spot where the odds favour you not just winning the hand but getting the most value that you can.

TC

Last edited by topthecat; Thu Mar 10, 2011 at 08:26 AM..
 
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Thu Mar 10, 2011, 09:14 AM
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Maybe an odds indicator will help
 

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