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Why no bounty for me? - Fri Mar 18, 2011, 08:57 AM
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I sent a query to support about this. Interesting that the winner of the main pot does not win the bounty.

PokerStars Game #59390645833: Tournament #376189268, $1.00+$0.25+$0.15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (60/120) - 2011/03/18 8:09:40 ET
Table '376189268 9' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: BJD1231 (3185 in chips)
Seat 2: TrustSlicker (3030 in chips)
Seat 3: domvamp666 (7545 in chips)
Seat 4: krasa1702 (2235 in chips)
Seat 5: de_luss (5375 in chips)
Seat 6: Jhon_aspheN (8470 in chips)
Seat 7: Freckldgator (2220 in chips)
Seat 8: 89Karlos89 (2010 in chips)
Seat 9: unjordi (6615 in chips)
BJD1231: posts the ante 15
TrustSlicker: posts the ante 15
domvamp666: posts the ante 15
krasa1702: posts the ante 15
de_luss: posts the ante 15
Jhon_aspheN: posts the ante 15
Freckldgator: posts the ante 15
89Karlos89: posts the ante 15
unjordi: posts the ante 15
TrustSlicker: posts small blind 60
domvamp666: posts big blind 120
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Freckldgator [As Ah]
krasa1702: folds
de_luss: raises 240 to 360
Jhon_aspheN: folds
Freckldgator: raises 1845 to 2205 and is all-in
89Karlos89: folds
unjordi: folds
BJD1231: raises 965 to 3170 and is all-in
TrustSlicker: folds
domvamp666: folds
de_luss: calls 2810
*** FLOP *** [5s 7h Td]
*** TURN *** [5s 7h Td] [6h]
BJD1231 said, "lol"
*** RIVER *** [5s 7h Td 6h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
de_luss: shows [Ks Kh] (a pair of Kings)
BJD1231: shows [9s 9c] (a pair of Nines)
de_luss collected 1930 from side pot
Freckldgator: shows [As Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Freckldgator collected 6930 from main pot
de_luss wins the $0.25 bounty for eliminating BJD1231
BJD1231 finished the tournament in 27th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 8860 Main pot 6930. Side pot 1930. | Rake 0
Board [5s 7h Td 6h Qs]
Seat 1: BJD1231 (button) showed [9s 9c] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 2: TrustSlicker (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: domvamp666 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: krasa1702 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: de_luss showed [Ks Kh] and won (1930) with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: Jhon_aspheN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Freckldgator showed [As Ah] and won (6930) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: 89Karlos89 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: unjordi folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Last edited by Freckldgator; Fri Mar 18, 2011 at 08:58 AM.. Reason: posted HH twice...lol
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 09:01 AM
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You have to knock someone out. That's how it works. You didn't have enough chips to knock anyone out in this hand.

JT
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 10:03 AM
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DUH!!!
Feeling pretty stupid that I didn't think of that.

Thanks for the answer.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by JT_Sooooted View Post
You have to knock someone out. That's how it works. You didn't have enough chips to knock anyone out in this hand.

JT
I believe that Freckldgator has a case for winning the bounty in this case. Even though he had the least amount of chips to start the hand, there was a side pot involved, and this makes a difference in how the chips were distributed.

The side pot between de_luss and BJD1231 was won by de_luss and lowered BJD1231's chip stack from 3185 to 2220 chips going into the main pot. This is the same amount that Freckldgator had and since Freckldgator won the main pot, he did actually knock out BJD1231. The fact that de_luss had more total chips is irrelevant because he only had 2220 chips at risk, the same as the other 2 players. The way I see it, the only way that de_luss could claim the bounty is if the main pot was settled first, which doesn't appear to be the case.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 01:35 PM
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Freck can not eliminate the player, only a bigger stack than the player can eliminate him.

Easiest way to see this is pretend the big stacked player had folded pre, and it was just Freck and the other guy . Freck wins the pot, and the other guy still has chips left and remains in the tourney.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 01:41 PM
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Edit: I do get what you're saying Ray, but you're looking at it backwards.

The side pot is awarded first because Freck has no stake in that pot and can not contest it. That has no impact on who's credited with a KO however. Freck starts the hand with 2220 chips, any player who starts the hand with more chips than that can not be eliminated by Freck no matter what happens. Only players that cover them can eliminate them. Freck won 2220 chips from the player in question, but that did not bust him. What busted him was that he continued to wager the rest of his remaining chips with a third player who did have him covered.

Hope this helps.
 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 04:36 PM
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You gotta go mortal kombat on them .... FINISH HIM!!!!

 
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Fri Mar 18, 2011, 04:54 PM
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Thanks for the answers..makes sense.
TBH I put it out of my head until the tourney was done when it got to bugging me and I didn't think it through.

And Sens:
I did eventually get THAT player's bounty and finished well in the tourney, so it's all good.
 

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