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Small Ball players only - Tue Mar 29, 2011, 12:07 PM
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Just started practicing the small ball technique and would like some insight on if I could have played this hand better.

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And here is another one. Although I did win these hands, I am not sure if I played them correctly. I am trying to find some hands right now of me practicing small ball that went horribly wrong too.

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Here is one where I got stuck in an awkward position, and called off all of my chips on a draw.


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Wed Mar 30, 2011, 11:46 AM
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No hand data for the first 2, something went wrong with the post.

Small ball is a good deep stacked weapon, it's not designed for short stack play. Hand 3 you have 23 bb's, you can't play small ball here because the pot will automatically be large relative to the effective stacks when you get involved.
 
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Wed Mar 30, 2011, 12:14 PM
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Ahh I see Lang. In your training video you talked about the rule of diminishing chip. So I can use small ball until I get that medium stack, but then it is time for me to start using that rule? I am trying to put into use what I have learned from you and other players on this site and what I have learned from my subscription of PokerVT.
 
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Wed Mar 30, 2011, 01:31 PM
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So I can use small ball until I get that medium stack, but then it is time for me to start using that rule? I am trying to put into use what I have learned from you and other players on this site and what I have learned from my subscription of PokerVT.

Correct. Daniel uses small ball in deep stacked live events (10K buy in) that have sometimes 200 or 300 bb's to start, you don't see that in many online mtt's beyond maybe level 1.
 
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Wed Mar 30, 2011, 03:41 PM
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So is it even worth practicing small ball? Because I am sure I am not going to be playing in many 10k starting chip events. What sort of strategies do you look to accomplish in an online MTT Lang?
 
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Thu Mar 31, 2011, 01:41 PM
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You don't need to play in 10K live events to get good practice with small ball, just understand that it's a strategic approach that's appropriate for deep stacked play, and it is more effective vs. certain types of oppoents and table dynamics than it is against others. As you learn more from Daniel's training site and practice small ball you'll find this out.

I wouldn't use it in the online mtt's that start at 75 bb stacks, but there are plenty of deep stacked online mtt's. If you play some scoops (lots of good satties for these) those will generally have a good deep structure to start. Also stars has a deep stack tourney I think daily with $10 buy in and slow escalations. Not sure if they still run it. I never play it as it's a really bad time investment for the $$ prospect (you can play for 6 or 7 hours and not make much more than double your buy in back) HOWEVER it's an excellent format for practicing deep stacked play if you have the time.
 
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Thu Mar 31, 2011, 04:27 PM
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Cool bro thx for the advice. I don't have a whole lot of time either to be playing that many hours. I think I will learn the technique and keep watching the videos on the site, but I am not going to put to much work into it. Maybe just get a general idea of the technique.
 

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