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Proper shove? - Mon Apr 04, 2011, 12:57 PM
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.4 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



SB (t1455)
BB (t3955)
Hero (UTG) (t1980)
MP1 (t2945)
MP2 (t2340)
CO (t5805)
Button (t8520)

Hero's M: 6.60

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, 6
Hero bets t1980 (All-In), 5 folds, BB calls t1780

Flop: (t4060) 8, 4, K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t4060) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t4060) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t4060
 
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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 01:00 PM
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for the life of me I cant figure out how to use our hand converter... I can get it but how do I post it in this forum
 
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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 01:14 PM
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I tend to like the shorter stack double up or get knocked out first. Most times this leads to me getting really short. I am not in favor of this shove. However, there are easy arguements for fold or shove here.

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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 02:44 PM
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7 handed, 10bb stack, I think shoving any pair first in the pot is fine here room.

JT, I get what you're saying and we should definitely consider stack sizes etc, but here we're the 2nd shortest stack 7 handed, paying 4 spots. So I wouldn't factor in waiting for that one shorter guy to go out with 6th and 5th place paying nothing.
 
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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 02:46 PM
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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 02:52 PM
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I like the shove roomik. i wish I had done it today when short stacked with my pocket 7s.

As for the Hand replayer when you have loaded the hand, click the link builder icon. A box with some code in it will appear and you need to copy and paste that code into your forum post for the replayer to play your hand.

Hope this helps,

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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 06:35 PM
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I tend to play PP's of 8 or lower tons softer then most pre-flop. I have found that this saves me alot. I don't change this from situation to situation as I probably should in STT's vs MTT's. I certainly am not saying I would NEVER shove here. I just like the fold or limp/fold to raise better then shove.

JT
 
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Mon Apr 04, 2011, 06:49 PM
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Can't be limping 10% of your stack UTG with 66. Shove or fold. It depends how the table's been playing. If the table has been playing really reckless and you think three players are bound to bust before you do, then I think you can fold here. The blinds are going to pass through you and eat 15% of your stack so you might as well steal them first with any reasonably strong hand. It's not like the short stack is anywhere close to blinding out. Shove, take the 300 chips x% of the time and flip or be crushed by an overpair the rest of the time (mostly flip) or even get super lucky and called by 55. Most of the time you should get all folds, as only the button can really call without having his stack destroyed.

Good shove, I'll guess JT suited or AA.
 

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