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few hands, right plays? - Tue Apr 12, 2011, 11:34 AM
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PokerStars Game #60717125782: Tournament #379718577, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2011/04/12 11:16:55 ET
Table '379718577 26' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (3195 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (1432 in chips)
Seat 3: RustyFlush (410 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jimmi28 (7876 in chips)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (2175 in chips)
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (2345 in chips)
Seat 7: trottie989 (4052 in chips)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY (2055 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (3184 in chips)
FarrahnsMom: posts the ante 25
bashy27: posts the ante 25
RustyFlush: posts the ante 25
jimmi28: posts the ante 25
BUZZLIYEAR: posts the ante 25
SoWrongSushi: posts the ante 25
trottie989: posts the ante 25
CATSAMMY: posts the ante 25
Cashew450: posts the ante 25
jimmi28: posts small blind 125
BUZZLIYEAR: posts big blind 250
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [8s 9s]
SoWrongSushi: calls 250
trottie989: folds
CATSAMMY: folds
Cashew450: folds
FarrahnsMom: folds
bashy27: raises 1157 to 1407 and is all-in
RustyFlush: folds
jimmi28: calls 1282
BUZZLIYEAR: folds
SoWrongSushi: folds
*** FLOP *** [6c 9c 8c]
*** TURN *** [6c 9c 8c] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [6c 9c 8c Kd] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jimmi28: shows [4h 5h] (a pair of Eights)
bashy27: shows [8s 9s] (a full house, Eights full of Nines)
bashy27 collected 3539 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3539 | Rake 0
Board [6c 9c 8c Kd 8h]
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bashy27 showed [8s 9s] and won (3539) with a full house, Eights full of Nines
Seat 3: RustyFlush (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmi28 (small blind) showed [4h 5h] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi folded before Flop
Seat 7: trottie989 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Cashew450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #60717196330: Tournament #379718577, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2011/04/12 11:18:42 ET
Table '379718577 26' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (3170 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (3539 in chips)
Seat 3: RustyFlush (385 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jimmi28 (6444 in chips)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (1900 in chips)
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (2070 in chips)
Seat 7: trottie989 (4027 in chips)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY (2030 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (3159 in chips)
FarrahnsMom: posts the ante 25
bashy27: posts the ante 25
RustyFlush: posts the ante 25
jimmi28: posts the ante 25
BUZZLIYEAR: posts the ante 25
SoWrongSushi: posts the ante 25
trottie989: posts the ante 25
CATSAMMY: posts the ante 25
Cashew450: posts the ante 25
BUZZLIYEAR: posts small blind 150
SoWrongSushi: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [Ad Ts]
trottie989: folds
CATSAMMY: folds
Cashew450: folds
FarrahnsMom: folds
bashy27: raises 3214 to 3514 and is all-in
RustyFlush: folds
jimmi28: folds
BUZZLIYEAR: folds
SoWrongSushi: folds
Uncalled bet (3214) returned to bashy27
bashy27 collected 975 from pot
bashy27: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 975 | Rake 0
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bashy27 collected (975)
Seat 3: RustyFlush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmi28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: trottie989 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Cashew450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #60717247736: Tournament #379718577, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2011/04/12 11:20:00 ET
Table '379718577 26' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (3145 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (4189 in chips)
Seat 3: RustyFlush (360 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jimmi28 (6419 in chips)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (1725 in chips)
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (1745 in chips)
Seat 7: trottie989 (4002 in chips)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY (2005 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (3134 in chips)
FarrahnsMom: posts the ante 25
bashy27: posts the ante 25
RustyFlush: posts the ante 25
jimmi28: posts the ante 25
BUZZLIYEAR: posts the ante 25
SoWrongSushi: posts the ante 25
trottie989: posts the ante 25
CATSAMMY: posts the ante 25
Cashew450: posts the ante 25
SoWrongSushi: posts small blind 150
trottie989: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [Ac Qd]
CATSAMMY: calls 300
Cashew450: folds
FarrahnsMom: folds
bashy27: raises 3864 to 4164 and is all-in
RustyFlush: folds
jimmi28: calls 4164
BUZZLIYEAR: folds
SoWrongSushi: folds
trottie989: folds
CATSAMMY: folds
*** FLOP *** [3s 4d Ad]
trottie989 said, "i c we have a clown at the table"
*** TURN *** [3s 4d Ad] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [3s 4d Ad 4c] [2c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bashy27: shows [Ac Qd] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
jimmi28: shows [Ks Th] (a pair of Fours)
bashy27 collected 9303 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9303 | Rake 0
Board [3s 4d Ad 4c 2c]
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bashy27 showed [Ac Qd] and won (9303) with two pair, Aces and Fours
Seat 3: RustyFlush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmi28 showed [Ks Th] and lost with a pair of Fours
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: trottie989 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: CATSAMMY folded before Flop
Seat 9: Cashew450 folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #60717517180: Tournament #379718577, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (150/300) - 2011/04/12 11:26:41 ET
Table '379718577 26' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (2745 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (9228 in chips)
Seat 3: RustyFlush (260 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jimmi28 (2155 in chips)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (1625 in chips)
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi (1495 in chips)
Seat 7: trottie989 (3397 in chips)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY (2560 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (3259 in chips)
FarrahnsMom: posts the ante 25
bashy27: posts the ante 25
RustyFlush: posts the ante 25
jimmi28: posts the ante 25
BUZZLIYEAR: posts the ante 25
SoWrongSushi: posts the ante 25
trottie989: posts the ante 25
CATSAMMY: posts the ante 25
Cashew450: posts the ante 25
FarrahnsMom: posts small blind 150
bashy27: posts big blind 300
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [Qd Qs]
RustyFlush: folds
jimmi28: folds
BUZZLIYEAR: raises 300 to 600
SoWrongSushi: raises 870 to 1470 and is all-in
trottie989: folds
CATSAMMY: folds
Cashew450: folds
FarrahnsMom: folds
bashy27: raises 870 to 2340
BUZZLIYEAR: calls 1000 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (740) returned to bashy27
*** FLOP *** [7c Kh 5c]
*** TURN *** [7c Kh 5c] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [7c Kh 5c Ac] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bashy27: shows [Qd Qs] (a pair of Queens)
BUZZLIYEAR: shows [Ks Ad] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
BUZZLIYEAR collected 260 from side pot
SoWrongSushi: shows [As Qc] (a pair of Aces)
BUZZLIYEAR collected 4785 from main pot
SoWrongSushi finished the tournament in 296th place
bashy27 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5045 Main pot 4785. Side pot 260. | Rake 0
Board [7c Kh 5c Ac 9d]
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: bashy27 (big blind) showed [Qd Qs] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: RustyFlush folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmi28 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR showed [Ks Ad] and won (5045) with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 6: SoWrongSushi showed [As Qc] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: trottie989 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)



PokerStars Game #60717742861: Tournament #379718577, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/04/12 11:32:16 ET
Table '379718577 26' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom (2470 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (6703 in chips)
Seat 3: RatBag00 (20223 in chips)
Seat 4: jimmi28 (5815 in chips)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (4545 in chips)
Seat 6: monkeyskunk4 (1808 in chips)
Seat 7: trottie989 (3272 in chips)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY (2035 in chips)
Seat 9: Cashew450 (1934 in chips)
FarrahnsMom: posts the ante 50
bashy27: posts the ante 50
RatBag00: posts the ante 50
jimmi28: posts the ante 50
BUZZLIYEAR: posts the ante 50
monkeyskunk4: posts the ante 50
trottie989: posts the ante 50
CATSAMMY: posts the ante 50
Cashew450: posts the ante 50
BUZZLIYEAR: posts small blind 200
monkeyskunk4: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [8h 8c]
trottie989: folds
CATSAMMY: folds
Cashew450: calls 400
FarrahnsMom: folds
bashy27: raises 6253 to 6653 and is all-in
RatBag00: folds
jimmi28: folds
BUZZLIYEAR: folds
monkeyskunk4 has timed out
monkeyskunk4: folds
monkeyskunk4 is sitting out
Cashew450: folds
Uncalled bet (6253) returned to bashy27
monkeyskunk4 has returned
bashy27 collected 1850 from pot
bashy27: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1850 | Rake 0
Seat 1: FarrahnsMom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: bashy27 collected (1850)
Seat 3: RatBag00 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: jimmi28 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: BUZZLIYEAR (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: monkeyskunk4 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: trottie989 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: CATSAMMY folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Cashew450 folded before Flop
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 12:59 PM
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Could you pick the one or two most important hands out of the bunch?
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:03 PM
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probably the 89 suited (1st one) and the QQ (4th one)
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:25 PM
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in the QQ one, you really want to be up against only 1 player and the way to try and get there is by pushing. The opps chip stacks are low enough that they almost have to call it and it's a good thing for you that they both have an ace, as it gives one less out for them.

No problems with pushing it, as it's what I'd do in that situation.... you just got unlucky.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:27 PM
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The A 10 hand.... you have over 10BB, so you don't need to auto push. If that bet gets called by anyone, you're in deep trouble, because they will be ahead of you and probably have you dominated. It's better just to do a normal raise with it preflop and see what happens.... that way you have the opportunity to fold it if you miss and someone else hits or pushes.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:29 PM
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88 hand.... way too much to push. Another situation like the A 10, where you don't want to push, you want to raise and play after the flop. There are way too many hands out there that can beat you and you don't want to lose all your chips with that being the case. Play it, yes, but raise the flop, so you can fold it if you are behind.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:31 PM
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AQ hand, same as the 88 and A 10..... you've got way too many chips to push with it. Play it and raise it, but don't blindly push without seeing the cards on the board.

I used to play like that somewhat, before I joined PSO... not doing it as much has helped me alot... both by learning to play after the flop better and it WILL help the bottom line (bankroll) too.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:33 PM
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the 8 9 suited hand... that's different. In this one, you're short on chips (less than 5BB left). With a shorter stack, if you are going to play it, this IS the situation that you'd want to push. It'll lower the number of players that you're up against, which will maximize your chance to win with it.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:49 PM
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cool, thankyou, i wanted to know whether the 89 shove was the right play more than any of the others, the ace 10 i figured better to shove than raise fold but hear what you are saying.
the A Q yes should of raised not shoved same for the 8's, i'm finding it hard making the right raises at the moment on the tables i have been playing as seems to be 3-4x BB as a standard which then draws shoves or crazy calls anyway, i was pushing as that seems to be the only way to get my bets through but i understand that yes if/when i get called i am way behind many hands with some of the shoves i have made.

on a side note this a hand that recently happened in the PSO league $10 freeroll, i believe i made the right play, although i cannot help but kick myself for it, it also illustrates my point from above.

PokerStars Game #60722585807: Tournament #379718611, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2011/04/12 13:21:45 ET
Table '379718611 3' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: DAMM DOYLE (884 in chips)
Seat 2: bashy27 (2940 in chips)
Seat 3: 3Jester6 (840 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: lissab60 (1560 in chips)
Seat 5: FOLD OR L0SE (1380 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: [007]Conman (3709 in chips)
Seat 7: Pepsi3640 (1525 in chips)
Seat 8: madfish13 (1502 in chips)
Seat 9: naomifluff (1425 in chips) is sitting out
madfish13: posts small blind 25
naomifluff: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bashy27 [7c 7s]
3Jester6 is connected
DAMM DOYLE: calls 50
bashy27: raises 150 to 200
3Jester6: folds
lissab60: raises 1360 to 1560 and is all-in
FOLD OR L0SE: folds
[007]Conman: folds
Pepsi3640: folds
madfish13: calls 1477 and is all-in
naomifluff: folds
DAMM DOYLE: calls 834 and is all-in
bashy27: folds
Uncalled bet (58) returned to lissab60
*** FLOP *** [Qd 2h 5h]
*** TURN *** [Qd 2h 5h] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [Qd 2h 5h 9d] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
madfish13: shows [3c 3d] (two pair, Nines and Threes)
lissab60: shows [Tc Jh] (a pair of Nines)
madfish13 collected 1236 from side pot
DAMM DOYLE: shows [Kd 5d] (two pair, Nines and Fives)
DAMM DOYLE collected 2902 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4138 Main pot 2902. Side pot 1236. | Rake 0
Board [Qd 2h 5h 9d 9c]
Seat 1: DAMM DOYLE showed [Kd 5d] and won (2902) with two pair, Nines and Fives
Seat 2: bashy27 folded before Flop
Seat 3: 3Jester6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: lissab60 showed [Tc Jh] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 5: FOLD OR L0SE folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: [007]Conman folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Pepsi3640 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: madfish13 (small blind) showed [3c 3d] and won (1236) with two pair, Nines and Threes
Seat 9: naomifluff (big blind) folded before Flop
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 01:55 PM
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with the 77, you absolutely made the correct play. That hand against 3 players will win alot less than 40% of the time. It's way, way too early to be calling a bet for that many chips when you know you're behind. You have plenty of time to find a better situation, where you are ahead.
 
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Tue Apr 12, 2011, 04:03 PM
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I think you made the right play on every hand except the 88. You have 15 BBs, which is enough that you can raise/fold, especially in PSO (where raise-folding is always an option). Think about the players left to act, their stack sizes and their calling ranges. WIth that big stack acting after you, you may want to just make a small raise to around 1200-1600. Then you can fold if you face too much aggression and still have 11-12BBs.

There are plenty of worse/flipping hands that will call your shoves with AQ and A10 though. And most of the time you're getting a bunch of folds anyway. On the AQ hand there's 775 in the pot so you're adding about 20% to your stack if everyone folds, which is excellent, and again if called you have a strong hand.
 
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Wed Apr 13, 2011, 01:22 AM
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Bashy - looks like you're having a nice first month with the PSO Leaderboard! My first month of serious play I think I ranked 11,000th or something

There's some nice money to be made with each Tournament in PSO, but a lot of people keep their eye on the big money that comes from doing well on the leaderboard by raking up points. And with PSO, all the big points come from making the "money" - if you play a lot of turbos, if you were finding it surprising that nobody was calling your raises, that's kind of why ... most of us would love to have a stack the size you were able to get by about your 3rd or 4th great hand, so if we get there, most of us will cool it until after the bubble like JWK said. Like, just play with smaller raises, etc. Definitely not shove into the big stack like oriholic said, etc, because the points are so valuable.

GL with the rest of the month!
 

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