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good or bad fold? - Sun Apr 17, 2011, 01:46 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner

side note: previous hand, got KK, and hit a king on the flop.
 
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Sun Apr 17, 2011, 01:53 PM
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Good fold, as blinds go up the value of small PPs in EP drop significantly. You're going to get a bunch of shoves by the BB who has 3BBs behind, and you're flipping a lot of those. You have to fold any other ships by people trying to grab the blinds and your limp if you come in, so you really need to ship/fold and the equity here isn't enough for a ship.
 
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Sun Apr 17, 2011, 04:03 PM
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You have 11BB stack remaining. Your in early position with 77. The Big blind has 3BB remaining.

That is the situation. Even if you limp, you have to assume the BB will want to get the rest of his chips in. So if you limp, either you will be forced to call another 3BB of your remaining 10BB stack, or someone else will raise. If someone else raises, you will have to commit your entire stack or fold preflop. If you open raise yourself, the outcome will be the same, except you may have committed yourself and can no longer fold against a reraise.

If you opened for 2 x BB you could still consider folding to a reraise, but this is a bad outcome. Much more costly than folding right away.

If you raised any larger than 2 x BB you will have committed enough of your stack that against a reraise the rest of your chips should get pushed into the pot. Getting roughly 1/3 your stack into the pot, it will almost always be a big mistake to then fold. You can't afford to give away a third of your stack without a fight.

So do you want to shove and risk your tournament life with 77 in early position? I hope not. This would be a very high risk move that is not necessary at over 10BB stack. It is even worse when you can assume BB will be calling. The purpose of a shove here would be to get everyone to fold and steal the blinds/antes, and you can assume that is not possible here.

Unless your at the tightest table you have ever seen and the BB had a bigger stack, simply FOLD.

Also, don't worry about how the hand played out. It is irrelevant here. All the information worth considering was present to you before you ever acted.

Last edited by RockerguyAA; Sun Apr 17, 2011 at 04:06 PM..
 
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Sun Apr 17, 2011, 04:43 PM
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Thanks fellas.
 

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