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JJ out of position.

JJ out of position. - Thu Apr 21, 2011, 07:57 AM
andrei17731's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 160
If there's a way that I can just paste the whole hand with the table and cards and not with words, I've seen other people post it that way, can you please tell me cause this way seems really messy.

My question is, how should I have played this hand better?

PokerStars Game #61113609745: Tournament #417010214, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 2011/04/21 4:44:17 PT [2011/04/21 7:44:17 ET]
Table '417010214 173' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: anonimnialko (19175 in chips)
Seat 2: Shpilim (3530 in chips)
Seat 4: 4e11 (8070 in chips)
Seat 5: andrei17731 (9415 in chips)
Seat 6: sale0011 (150 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 7: MEHO1969 (11250 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: 2FishYou (26942 in chips)
Seat 9: Happyd0nk (10415 in chips)
anonimnialko: posts the ante 25
Shpilim: posts the ante 25
4e11: posts the ante 25
andrei17731: posts the ante 25
sale0011: posts the ante 25
MEHO1969: posts the ante 25
2FishYou: posts the ante 25
Happyd0nk: posts the ante 25
andrei17731: posts small blind 125
sale0011: posts big blind 125 and is all-in
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andrei17731 [Jd Jh]
MEHO1969: folds
2FishYou: folds
MEHO1969 is connected
Happyd0nk: folds
anonimnialko: folds
Shpilim: folds
MEHO1969 has returned
01fuchs is connected
4e11: raises 375 to 500
andrei17731: calls 375
sale0011: folds
*** FLOP *** [7c Ks Ac]
andrei17731: checks
4e11 is disconnected
4e11 has timed out while disconnected
4e11: checks
*** TURN *** [7c Ks Ac] [3s]
andrei17731: bets 750
4e11 is connected
4e11: calls 750
*** RIVER *** [7c Ks Ac 3s] [6s]
andrei17731: bets 750
4e11: raises 1500 to 2250
andrei17731: folds
Uncalled bet (1500) returned to 4e11
4e11 collected 3750 from side pot
4e11 collected 575 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4325 Main pot 575. Side pot 3750. | Rake 0
Board [7c Ks Ac 3s 6s]
Seat 1: anonimnialko folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Shpilim folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 4e11 (button) collected (4325)
Seat 5: andrei17731 (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 6: sale0011 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: MEHO1969 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: 2FishYou folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Happyd0nk folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Thu Apr 21, 2011, 08:53 AM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,862
The opponent raised to 4BB preflop. It can be for other hands, but alot of the time, it'll be a big A or pair or large suited cards. If they have an ace or a suited K then you're in serious trouble with the flop as you only have 2 outs (the other J's).

I like the check on the flop. At least that gives you a free chance to get another J. If you were the original raiser preflop, I'd have made a bet here (750 chips or so)... to see where I'm at.

Since they raised preflop, I'd have checked the turn too. You don't want to be betting into a hand that you probably only have 2 outs to beat. If they bet the turn, you need to muck the hand and save your chips for a better situation.

For the river, I'd have checked again if I was still in... and their raise there is probably AK or even worse with a flush. It really sounds like AK to me.

JJ, when you see overs on the flop is a check/fold, unless you get a set.... and even if you get the set, if there are overs too, you have to be worried about a broadway straight.
Thu Apr 21, 2011, 03:00 PM
TheLangolier's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 13,517
(Head Trainer)
I like the call pre on this depth of money personally. Check/fold the flop is fine, this is obviously a pretty horrible flop for JJ. I like the turn bet but you don't need to bet so much. I assume you're betting because he's disconnected and timed out on the flop. You can make a min bet if that's the only reason for betting. Once he reconnects and calls your turn bet, I would shut it down and just check the river. He's not folding for another 750 on the end and it's hard to see him calling the turn with worse. Just give up at that point imo.

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