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QQ first hand in 1$ tourn. buy in - Fri Apr 22, 2011, 06:32 AM
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How do you guys read this material, its so messy, do you have a system? and there's a part in this hand history that says, 'magalhaes197: raises 120 to 140' what do they mean by raise from 120 to 140? he didn't make a bet of 120 before?

So my question is did I play the QQ correctly or should I have played it differently?




PokerStars Game #61153852053: Tournament #417010215, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/04/22 2:59:49 PT [2011/04/22 5:59:49 ET]
Table '417010215 60' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Kill_River_o (3000 in chips)
Seat 2: Hajotle (3000 in chips)
Seat 3: jet235 (3000 in chips)
Seat 4: Oiasso (3000 in chips)
Seat 5: magalhaes197 (3000 in chips)
Seat 6: kütahya1968 (3000 in chips)
Seat 7: andrei17731 (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: sparta1979 (3000 in chips)
Seat 9: bryton68 (3000 in chips)
Hajotle: posts small blind 10
jet235: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andrei17731 [Qd Qs]
Oiasso: folds
magalhaes197: raises 120 to 140
kütahya1968: folds
andrei17731: raises 180 to 320
sparta1979: folds
bryton68: folds
Kill_River_o: folds
Hajotle: raises 2680 to 3000 and is all-in
jet235: folds
magalhaes197: calls 2860 and is all-in
andrei17731: calls 2680 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Qh 7c 2s]
*** TURN *** [Qh 7c 2s] [6c]
*** RIVER *** [Qh 7c 2s 6c] [9c]
andrei17731 said, "oh what"
andrei17731 said, "sick"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Hajotle: shows [As Kh] (high card Ace)
magalhaes197: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
andrei17731: shows [Qd Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
andrei17731 collected 9020 from pot
Hajotle finished the tournament in 1000th place
magalhaes197 finished the tournament in 1000th place
andrei17731 said, "so cik"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9020 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 7c 2s 6c 9c]
Seat 1: Kill_River_o (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Hajotle (small blind) showed [As Kh] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: jet235 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Oiasso folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: magalhaes197 showed [Jc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 6: kütahya1968 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: andrei17731 showed [Qd Qs] and won (9020) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 8: sparta1979 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bryton68 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Fri Apr 22, 2011, 08:32 AM
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it says 'raises 120 to 140'. That means that the player raised the original bet (the BB of 20) by 120.. giving a total bet of 140.

With QQ, the optimal situation is to be isolated against one opponent, so that you don't have more than 1 person drawing at an ace, king or lower pair.

If it was up to me, my initial raise would have been slightly larger. Since they raised to 140, I'd have raised to 3X that or 420. When the 3rd person pushes all-in and called by the initial raiser, the only hands I'd be worried about are AA or KK. If I didn't put either of them on AA or KK, it's an automatic call because then they both have a big A or KQ/KJ suited... there are less outs for them to beat you.

You were the favorite to win the hand (45% of the time against those cards), got your chips into the pot as the favorite and the best hand held. That's exactly what you want to do.
 
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Fri Apr 22, 2011, 02:47 PM
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Hand #1 of the tourney, so no reads other than $1 buy in. I can't wait to get my stack in here personally.
 
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Fri Apr 22, 2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
Hand #1 of the tourney, so no reads other than $1 buy in. I can't wait to get my stack in here personally.
I agree. I've played enough of these that I'm never folding in this situation during the first 15 minutes of the tournament. So many crazy players, folding QQ+ here will probably be a losing proposition in the long run.
 
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Fri Apr 22, 2011, 07:39 PM
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I'm happy enough with the OP's raise preflop as opposed to a larger reraise - he has 5 players round before it gets back to the original raiser and it brings in an element of pot control.

It gives him that little extra wriggle room for post-flop play and a parachute should A, K, single suited flop or completely connected board.

I agree: you would be long-term happy to get it all-in pre-flop but whatever buy-in you are likely to get a lot of loose action first 15 mins.

It depends on what level of exposure you want to play and how early, obviously any hands at this stage your risk profile is tremendous. Couple that with the stack to blind comfort level which is why I would trend towards a post-flop stratagem.

Obviously you have to be ok laying down what you honestly believe is the best hand but that's a style choice. Just my 2¢.
 

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