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AK with 25bb

AK with 25bb - Mon Apr 25, 2011, 07:24 AM
andrei17731's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 160
I was wondering if this is a good lay down or not? My thinking was because there was 4 people in the pot and my stack was 25bb, it wouldn't be a wise decision to risk all of it on a coin flip.

PokerStars Game #61282235774: Tournament #418010171, $3.00+$0.30 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2011/04/25 4:07:50 PT [2011/04/25 7:07:50 ET]
Table '418010171 25' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Spartanul181 (22204 in chips)
Seat 2: rolli.12 (29792 in chips)
Seat 3: DaBanker79 (11955 in chips)
Seat 4: rooie pierre (9956 in chips)
Seat 5: GenevaKay (11718 in chips)
Seat 6: foxyhough (36114 in chips)
Seat 7: mikileka (23522 in chips)
Seat 8: ChangeGear70 (13290 in chips)
Seat 9: andrei17731 (25442 in chips)
Spartanul181: posts the ante 100
rolli.12: posts the ante 100
DaBanker79: posts the ante 100
rooie pierre: posts the ante 100
GenevaKay: posts the ante 100
foxyhough: posts the ante 100
mikileka: posts the ante 100
ChangeGear70: posts the ante 100
andrei17731: posts the ante 100
foxyhough: posts small blind 500
mikileka: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to andrei17731 [As Kd]
ChangeGear70: folds
andrei17731: raises 1250 to 2250
Spartanul181: calls 2250
rolli.12: calls 2250
DaBanker79: calls 2250
rooie pierre: folds
GenevaKay: folds
foxyhough: calls 1750
mikileka: raises 21172 to 23422 and is all-in
andrei17731: folds
Spartanul181: folds
rolli.12: folds
DaBanker79: calls 9605 and is all-in
foxyhough: folds
Uncalled bet (11567) returned to mikileka
andrei17731 said, "well thats a sick pot for him, way to go guys,"
*** FLOP *** [5s 4c Ah]
GenevaKay said, "nice move"
*** TURN *** [5s 4c Ah] [6s]
andrei17731 said, "had it beat"
*** RIVER *** [5s 4c Ah 6s] [9d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Mon Apr 25, 2011, 10:35 AM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,793
at that blind level, you should have already been ITM... so now, what you want to do is to climb the pay ladder and accumulate chips for a FT run.

Against that many preflop, against random hands, you're under a 40% winner. If they have real hands, it's even less. That makes it much worse than a coin flip.

If I could be isolated against 1 opponent, I call it, but against 4 others, I'd try to find a better spot.

Even if it's you against only 2 random hands, you are going to lose more than you'll win with it.

Now.... if it's after the flop and I see the A, it's entirely different, as it's a quick shove.
Mon Apr 25, 2011, 04:13 PM
oriholic's Avatar
Since: Oct 2010
Posts: 751
Great fold!! You have about 25 BBs, which figures to be a pretty decent stack at the moment, and one of the few really dangerous stacks has put you to a decision for basically all your chips. If it was the 10k or even the 12k stack I would happily reraise all in to isolate.

Hard to say where I would draw the all-in/fold line here, probably KK+. Losing a hand here is just too devastating when you have such a workable stack.

Even if it 's just you against one big stack I lean towards a fold...

How many players are left and what is the average stack? I think against a single player's range you're probably getting okay calling odds, but against a really tight player you may only be 50% or less which given stack sizes may not be enough. Losing this hand all but knocks you out of the tournament. (You're in the BB in two hands and will be pot-committed with any two.)

As played this is a fold. On the other hand, if a big stack had raised it up, and the action was on you, pushing all in would be a great move! Massive fold equity with your stack and a monster to fall back on if called.

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