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How is it the bad players keep getting pionts???/ - Tue Apr 26, 2011, 06:33 PM
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I'm getting so tired of playing and getting no were. The bad players seem to win way to much. example it happened today . My AA im in position i raise pre flop ( 3 times the pot). I get called by this ----- player who is out of postion and med stacked . flop comes 3 8 k , I raise again , and he calls again turn is a J , I go all-in I want him gone and well he called and won why , because he called my 1st bet with J 3 ( unsuited ) and I looked, this guy is sitting on leader board . I give up
on PSO so sic.these guys that play bad are winning, i wish it could be scored different. thanks for letting my B...
 
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Tue Apr 26, 2011, 08:03 PM
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Calling station, Tazzy.

You need to note them: they will be in virtually every hand, and will continue to call if they get a piece of the board. They will only ever raise if their hand hits and they think they have the best of it.

Unfortunately, you raised, just when he hit so it was an insta call for him.

I find that these type of players are the most difficult to counteract since they have no respect for raises and are just playing the cards not the players.

It is usually easy to counteract if there are only one or two at a table but when there are four or five, checking and then calling any raise, it is hard to know where you are at.

Tip for you tho; never bet to get rid of a player (unless it is a total bluff and they might believe it is true), bet to get their chips and the most value that you can.

Cheers,

TC
 
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reply - Wed Apr 27, 2011, 07:47 PM
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The sad part of it is you are eplaying the person and not the cards,or the (COMPUTER CARDS) stop playing your hand and start watching the cards fall (much different than real cards) and I guarantee within a week you will be much more aware of the cards thatg might fall.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 07:50 PM
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The sad part of it is you are eplaying the person and not the cards,or the (COMPUTER CARDS) stop playing your hand and start watching the cards fall (much different than real cards) and I guarantee within a week you will be much more aware of the cards thatg might fall.

IS THAT COS IT'S "RIGGED" ???

GO LAKERS

 
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Rigged - Wed Apr 27, 2011, 08:32 PM
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No the cards are not rigged, but it is a computer and much like people can think like other people, you cant think like a computer . so the odds that they post per hand are not in any way shape or form the oddds that the computer displays. the odds are made by live card playing not compute.r
cards and therefore are very much different i.e how often do you actually win with ace ace or even king king i find the best hand of all is 10,jack or even 9.jack . in a computers mind a high pair is a mistake do you see 3 aces often. 3 kings no this is just a summary of what I think happens. I have started playing what I feel is like a computer and I have placed in the last 5 days 3 times in the money( my information comes from the expierience of messing with software that I have purchased and changing it and no it is impossable to change pokerstars software as you cant get ahold of the original software and even if you did you wouldnt be able to change it as its on the web you would be a hacker and in a lot of shit ne ways good luck and just try tweaking your play a little and watch the difference.

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rigged alright - Wed Apr 27, 2011, 09:28 PM
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All the sites are rigged and the sites just hide behind variance and tell you things like you see more hands online than live so your gonna see more badbeats . But its the way it hapens im sick seeing crap hands with bigger stacks hit runner runner . Ofcourse anything can happen in poker but it goes on way to much for it to be fair online . Some people have gathered enough information to prove it but the sites will just tell you to play more hands for VARIANCE to kick in.
Its a joke the money they make and they still mess about with the RnGs . If they went straight they might lose some cash . But nobody can do anything about it so they wont change. Cant wait to see what sites the USA bring out maybe all the players that want to get back wont if the new sites have a fair RnG. But you can still win some cash and have fun so Goodluck

the computer shouldnt be thinking its only meant to deal cards...

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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 09:46 PM
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All the sites are rigged and the sites just hide behind variance and tell you things like you see more hands online than live so your gonna see more badbeats . But its the way it hapens im sick seeing crap hands with bigger stacks hit runner runner . Ofcourse anything can happen in poker but it goes on way to much for it to be fair online . Some people have gathered enough information to prove it but the sites will just tell you to play more hands for VARIANCE to kick in.
Its a joke the money they make and they still mess about with the RnGs . If they went straight they might lose some cash . But nobody can do anything about it so they wont change. Cant wait to see what sites the USA bring out maybe all the players that want to get back wont if the new sites have a fair RnG. But you can still win some cash and have fun so Goodluck

the computer shouldnt be thinking its only meant to deal cards...
And we are supposed to believe this because you say its so. Bring some proof or shut up!
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 10:04 PM
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And we are supposed to believe this because you say its so. Bring some proof or shut up!
NOW WAS THAT A NICE REPLY
DON'T START A FLAME WAR
BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100%

GO LAKERS

 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 10:10 PM
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If I get this right your complaint isn't that you are getting out played it's that you are getting out drawn. Well there is a very simple explination for this and that is that the PSO skill league is a freeroll and as such it does have it fair share of players who for their own selfish reasons don't see it as a way to improve their game but instead see it as a chance to catch some free money so with nothing to lose what is stopping them from taking silly risks on the slim chance that they win.
It's painful to say but these types of players have always been around and always will be (even in your local casino) it's just something we all have to deal with
 
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nope - Thu Apr 28, 2011, 09:21 PM
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And we are supposed to believe this because you say its so. Bring some proof or shut up!

I thougth being a ( super mod ) you would have seen that i never said you had to believe me . And whos gonna shutup cos you tell them too lol get real you jackass . Handing out warnings for a double post lol ...It makes more work for you... Whats realy wrong with you ???
 
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Thu Apr 28, 2011, 09:53 PM
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. lol get real you jackass

Joe may be a lot of things but he ain't no jackass.
 
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Thu Apr 28, 2011, 10:24 PM
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I thougth being a ( super mod ) you would have seen that i never said you had to believe me . And whos gonna shutup cos you tell them too lol get real you jackass . Handing out warnings for a double post lol ...It makes more work for you... Whats realy wrong with you ???
WELL YOU THINK IT'S RIGGED SO SEE YOU LATER COS I KNOW YOUR NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO PLAY ON A RIGGED SITE OR ARE YOU??
WELL I HOPE THIS IS GOODBYE

GO LAKERS

 
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Fri Apr 29, 2011, 12:15 AM
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WELL YOU THINK IT'S RIGGED SO SEE YOU LATER COS I KNOW YOUR NOT STUPID ENOUGH TO PLAY ON A RIGGED SITE OR ARE YOU??
WELL I HOPE THIS IS GOODBYE

GO LAKERS

I'm guessing they are.

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Sat Apr 30, 2011, 10:07 AM
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sorry its not goodbye...ive still cashed out many times the amount i have deposited . But i can still form my own opinion regardless of what mods and people who brown nose them say
 
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Sat Apr 30, 2011, 07:07 PM
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sorry its not goodbye...ive still cashed out many times the amount i have deposited . But i can still form my own opinion regardless of what mods and people who brown nose them say

WELL YOUR NOT MAKING ANY ON RING GAMES JUST LOSING
AND JUST COS SOMEONE DOES NOT THINK IT'S RIGGED
DOES NOT MAKE THEM A BROWN NOSE
BUT YOU HAVE FUN

GO LAKERS

 
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Proof ...You can't handle the proof ... - Sun May 01, 2011, 02:28 PM
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I agree 100% with Mamacarol.....the random shuffle /variance is a complete smoke screen for the truth.

1) Pokerstars random shuffle can actually change the cards on the flop to match cards in the hand.
2) Pokerstars random shuffle will let the inferior hand win at a significantly higher percentage than it actually has.
3) In multiway preflop all(3-4 hands) in the worst hand wins at a MINIMUM of twice its real odds.
4 ) And if you keep emailing support with these truthful acusations then can put you on a bad beat program at a press of a button.
5) Back in January when Pokerstars knew the FBI was hot on their tail (grouped us by countries instead of cities) and were going to lose the US market ......they began rigging the cards twice in as bad (cash tourneys) in favor of Eastern Europeans and South Americans to try to build these markets up to compensate for the imminent loss of the US market.


I have no where even gotten close to the real odds on my hands on pokerstars and the PSO ....I have lost>>>>......now get this 70% of my preflop all in races ....now if you know anything about the odds or variance (moderator bob) than you'd know that should be very close to 50% .....and my test sample was in over 800 preflop all in heads up races over 3 and a half month period..... variance my ass. its rigged, fixed and phony ....PS (whipped you and all U mods in the PSO the last 3 months in spite of it .)

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ssuglia YOU CLOWN - Sun May 01, 2011, 02:43 PM
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Buddy get a life ....all you do is make inane and pointless comments all over this forum ....hope Pokerstars is paying you.....and by the way I'd beat you drunk and blind-folded at the poker table.
 
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Sun May 01, 2011, 04:04 PM
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I agree 100% with Mamacarol.....the random shuffle /variance is a complete smoke screen for the truth.

1) Pokerstars random shuffle can actually change the cards on the flop to match cards in the hand.
Proof please.

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2) Pokerstars random shuffle will let the inferior hand win at a significantly higher percentage than it actually has.
Proof please.

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3) In multiway preflop all(3-4 hands) in the worst hand wins at a MINIMUM of twice its real odds.
Proof please. :

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4 ) And if you keep emailing support with these truthful acusations then can put you on a bad beat program at a press of a button.
That's pretty damn funny.

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Sun May 01, 2011, 04:24 PM
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Buddy get a life ....all you do is make inane and pointless comments all over this forum ....hope Pokerstars is paying you.....and by the way I'd beat you drunk and blind-folded at the poker table.
You're a funny guy.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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Sun May 01, 2011, 04:54 PM
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WELL YOUR NOT MAKING ANY ON RING GAMES JUST LOSING
AND JUST COS SOMEONE DOES NOT THINK IT'S RIGGED
DOES NOT MAKE THEM A BROWN NOSE
BUT YOU HAVE FUN

GO LAKERS

What is the point of even saying i dont make any in ring games ?? i hardly play them . Do you just say things so at the end you can say GO LAKERS . grow up ......

And people keep saying proof please when not one of them can PROVE that its not rigged . And that what was said about eastern euro's sounds about right . they just play with crap and get bailed out . Online poker needs chaos for it to keep raking in the money they do. If there is order then over a very short time bad players will lose there cash and the good ones will keep withdrawing it . But fixing the RnG to help the fish and idiots and to speed things up from time to time keeps more players paying rake .
 

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