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who can answer this question about 7-card stud?? - Tue Apr 26, 2011, 11:50 PM
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In seven card, or any stud game, is it permissible for a player to "rearrange" his up cards as they are delt, or must they remain in the exact order in which they are delt. It seems to me that being able to rearrange up cards would negatively impact game strategy. I've played in home games where it is ok for players to rearrange their upcards, and in others where it's not allowed. What is the official casino rule?? I've googled for an answer and can't find one! Thanks,
The Chuxter
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 12:09 AM
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Hey Chux..welcome to the forum.
I've never heard that it's ok to change your up card...first of all..after you deal the two down cards, the dealer should be dealing 3rd street to 6th street up...so why would you change them? Everyone already knows what you have. You don't want to deal the up cards down and then let the players choose. That completely changes the strategy of the game. Now if all players agree...well then you're playing your own game...but the strategy will be very different.
Stud is first two down...then next 4 up..last down..period.
Hope this helps!
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 12:36 AM
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I think he's asking whether the 4 up cards can be shuffled, so that people will see them, but not necessarily in the order that they were dealt. The strategic change would be subtle, but there definitely could be one.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 12:42 AM
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Okay..yeah I can see that now. Thanks PP...yeah...subtle but there. I think a casino wouldn't let ya' touch 'em. Not positive though.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 01:05 AM
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The casino will not allow it. As a player, arranging the cards could reveal what's in your hand. Best to let the cards come as they are played.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 02:47 AM
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personally I think you are nuttier than squirrel sh*t for even asking this question.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 01:10 PM
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Re-arranging your up cards is not allowed. It does happen frequently in home games where people don't know any better, but technically you're not supposed to do it.

You can shuffle your hole cards before the showdown however, so players can't tell for certain which card you received on the end.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
Re-arranging your up cards is not allowed. It does happen frequently in home games where people don't know any better, but technically you're not supposed to do it.

You can shuffle your hole cards before the showdown however, so players can't tell for certain which card you received on the end.
Dave correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the reason behind not being able to re-arrange your windows or up-cards is so that betting on each of those streets can be weighed up by players against the cards that are in view. Switching those window cards around would distort the betting picture.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 01:22 PM
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The player with the highest board acts first on each street so yes, re-arranging the board cards might make it look like a different board was higher on a previous street and it does distort (sometimes greatly) the information that should be rightly available to all players.
 
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Wed Apr 27, 2011, 05:20 PM
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correcto.....no touchy windows but ok to shuffle holes after 7th st.
 

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