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MicroStakes SnG's - New buy ins new rake and new structures - Fri May 06, 2011, 12:27 PM
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Hey all, just logged onto pokerstars and they have made a huge change to the sng's at the microstakes limit.

They have added Rake to the $0.10 tourneys and $0.25 tourneys ($0.02 and $0.05)

They have decreased the rake of $1.20 sng's to $1.18 ($0.18)

They have adjusted the stakes, removing $2.20 and adding in $1.18 Multi table sng's

They no longer have $4.40 180 man sng's, instead $3.32 and $5.50

New structures to tournements (all 90 man sng's starting stacks are now 1500) also they have changed the structure of the 180 man sng's to the same as the 90 man sng's.

Might of missed out a few changes there but let me know whether you guys think it is a good or bad thing.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 12:44 PM
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must be losing money...
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 12:56 PM
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http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/tournaments/sitandgo/

Yep thanks to all those of you who provided the feedback upon which these changes have been made

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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:06 PM
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This is straight up armed robbery.

Good luck getting out of the micros now that the juice is killing peoples bottom line,absolutely disgusting that they have done this.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:07 PM
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I used to play a lot of the .25 90man S&G's.2000starting chips and 10 minute blind levels.It appears the blind structure has changed.Used to start with 15/30 blinds now it is 10 /20.Blind increases aren't as drastic as before,they used to skip some levels but there are now blind levels that they used to skip (ie40/80).20% rake is going to hamper ROI IMO.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:13 PM
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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:20 PM
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Does any1 know if they have adjusted the rake intake on standard cash tables?
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:31 PM
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Does any1 know if they have adjusted the rake intake on standard cash tables?
I guess you should take the time and read up on it
It only affects SnG's
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:37 PM
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I guess you should take the time and read up on it
It only affects SnG's
Where did you see this? I'm seeing rumbling in some forums that higher end rake has been upped to $5 cap, which is why I am curious if they altered any other cash levels.

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Fri May 06, 2011, 01:40 PM
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So they eliminate the $2 HU and replace it with a $1 HU SNG.
If I remember correctly the rake was 20 cents on the $2 and the $1 is 7 cents.
So I think I like this but will have to see if it encourages more people with $1 left to play HU.

I know not many of us play HU but thought I would share that tidbit.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 02:05 PM
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Remember though folks these changes have been made in response to the feedback and suggestions of players and are for our benefit, they have nothing whatsoever to do with increasing cash flow through rake and tournament turnover times.

Now where is that PokerStars suggestion box ?
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 02:10 PM
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Remember though folks these changes have been made in response to the feedback and suggestions of players and are for our benefit, they have nothing whatsoever to do with increasing cash flow through rake and tournament turnover times.

Now where is that PokerStars suggestion box ?


lol
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 02:12 PM
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It's called the circular file, and everyone's got one in their house, direct line to PS support.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 03:17 PM
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They are claiming that on a whole the rake has been slighlty reduced, Good job i only play the sng's with the increased rake then!
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 03:58 PM
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I think adding rake to the 25c games is fine. I always kinda wondered why they were exempt.

But 20% rake at any level is waaay to high. (Thats why i never played the $1.20 games). I think the max rake should be 10%

I like the idea of bringing everything inline.
I like the normal speed $1 90mans (god knows why they were missing before)
I like the new $3 & $5 levels instead of $2 & $4

But overall I say booo to the changes.

On the bright side the new 30c games are an extremely soft way of people generating 20 VPP for the league (althought you have to play 72 of them )

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Fri May 06, 2011, 05:25 PM
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I actually really like the micro HU sit & go's. I can't remember ever playing one against a solid opponent, so they should be a decently low-variance way to build a bankroll, assuming you know anything about HU. I imagine that the decreased buy-in and juice should attract an even softer crowd. I think I'll try devoting a day just to those in the near future, just to see how much money I make/lose. Panicky's $1 HU challenge?

 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 05:31 PM
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Sweet mother of cauliflower... Nobody said anything about hyper-turbos being added!

I love these.
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 05:46 PM
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I think I'll try devoting a day just to those in the near future, just to see how much money I make/lose. Panicky's $1 HU challenge?

yeah go for it, I hate HU so you wont have any competition from me
 
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Fri May 06, 2011, 05:53 PM
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Its simple... all of the other big sites are shut down, or having trouble paying off players bankrolls... Pokerstars as the biggest site with the most cash now has a complete monopoly on the market and can do what it pleases to make money...Where will you go? Carbon? sit and wait for a 9 man game to fill up.. start with 1000 chips and they all have turbo speeds UB? nope
Pokerstars still has a huge amount of players, with a better setup so they can bend you over the barrel and tell you to say ahhhhh
 

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