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PLO: Middle Full House vs. Quads, Is This Standard? - Sat May 14, 2011, 08:51 PM
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I ran into this hand while playing an 8-Game cash session. I'm wondering what you guys think of the play in this hand, and I'm especially curious if this is a standard thing to see. Thanks!

Also, if anyone knows a working 8-Game converter, I'd love to hear about it.

PokerStars Game #62106622821: 8-Game (Omaha Pot Limit, $0.05/$0.10 USD) - 2011/05/14 17:30:48 PT [2011/05/14 20:30:48 ET]
Table 'Rhesus IV' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: goodbyerebuy ($6.23 in chips)
Seat 2: bigmac333 ($5 in chips)
Seat 3: PanickyPoker ($15.25 in chips)
Seat 4: otterkopp ($9.90 in chips)
Seat 5: Saltpingvin ($4.86 in chips)
Seat 6: Eggjay ($4.93 in chips)
Eggjay: posts small blind $0.05
goodbyerebuy: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PanickyPoker [7h Kh 6h 7d]
bigmac333: calls $0.10
PanickyPoker: folds
otterkopp: folds
Saltpingvin: calls $0.10
Eggjay: calls $0.05
goodbyerebuy: checks
*** FLOP *** [9h 8s Qd]
Eggjay: checks
goodbyerebuy: checks
bigmac333: bets $0.30
Saltpingvin: calls $0.30
Eggjay: calls $0.30
goodbyerebuy: folds
*** TURN *** [9h 8s Qd] [8h]
Eggjay: checks
bigmac333: bets $0.40
Saltpingvin: folds
Eggjay: raises $0.90 to $1.30
bigmac333: raises $1.30 to $2.60
Eggjay: raises $1.90 to $4.50
bigmac333: raises $0.10 to $4.60 and is all-in
Eggjay: calls $0.03 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.07) returned to bigmac333
*** RIVER *** [9h 8s Qd 8h] [9s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Eggjay: shows [Jc 3h 9c 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
bigmac333: shows [8c 7c Ac 8d] (four of a kind, Eights)
Eggjay collected $9.85 from pot
Eggjay said, "fk me"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $10.36 | Rake $0.51
Board [9h 8s Qd 8h 9s]
Seat 1: goodbyerebuy (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: bigmac333 showed [8c 7c Ac 8d] and lost with four of a kind, Eights
Seat 3: PanickyPoker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: otterkopp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Saltpingvin (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: Eggjay (small blind) showed [Jc 3h 9c 9d] and won ($9.85) with four of a kind, Nines
 
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Sat May 14, 2011, 09:44 PM
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COULD NOT FIND THE FULL HOUSE

 
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Sat May 14, 2011, 10:44 PM
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I only see 2 pair, 9's and 7's for you.

Full houses running into quads is really common in PLO, but there isn't a full house in anyone's hands that I see.

If the board has two pairs on it, two quads is something that can happen too..... like what happened here.
 
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Sat May 14, 2011, 11:53 PM
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Eggjay had a full house when the money went in. My hand has nothing to do with this (unless I made a bad fold).

I'd like to know if:

1) players will generally get it in with a full house when overfulls and quads are both possible,

2) full house vs. quads / quads vs. quads is something that you see frequently in PLO, and

3) whether or not quads getting sucked out on is something that happens regularly in the game.

Apparently #2 is a yes, from what I gather. The frequency of these things happening is sort of what I'm interested in learning, just to help me guage when I should be getting involved, and when I should be folding, hands like second boat on a board like this one.
 
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Sun May 15, 2011, 12:08 AM
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with over boats and quads possible, normally someone waits to get it in (or is taking a real, real big risk.

full house vs quads...... common in omaha

quads sucked out on... is not normal.

If you get a boat, you want to make a bet, but pushing without the nuts is a recipe for disaster.... and with 4 cards for everyone, you'll see the nuts more than you think.
 
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Sun May 15, 2011, 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by PanickyPoker View Post
Eggjay had a full house when the money went in. My hand has nothing to do with this (unless I made a bad fold).
Your fold is good.
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I'd like to know if:

1) players will generally get it in with a full house when overfulls and quads are both possible,
Fishy ones absolutely. Solid ones not so much (it depends).

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2) full house vs. quads / quads vs. quads is something that you see frequently in PLO
No, not really, I wouldn't say frequently by any stretch of the word, BUT it is much more "common" than in holdem where it's super rare.

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3) whether or not quads getting sucked out on is something that happens regularly in the game.
No, absolutely not.
 
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Sun May 15, 2011, 03:43 AM
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Thanks for the help, JWK and Dave.
 

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