Home / Community / Forum / Support Area / Poker News /

Poker Time Management

Old
Default
Poker Time Management - Tue May 17, 2011, 11:11 AM
(#1)
topthecat's Avatar
Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,962
Time management is a real problem for me.

I played 4 PSOs yesterday over a ten hour stint, whilst playing some other freerolls and a few other games at the same time. I usually had 4 tables going until the last PSO tournament.

I am completely knackered today after getting to bed at 5am and really do not have the energy or the enthusiasm to play poker. And I believe it is not good to play when you are not in the right frame of mind.

I am hoping that some of the more experienced players (who do not seem to have an off switch) could put forward their thoughts and strategies on achieving a practical balance that allow you to play poker and continue having a life as well. I realise that a lot of it has to do with hard work, effort, perseverance and diligence but also planning your time.

Any tips greatly appreciated.

TC
 
Old
Default
Tue May 17, 2011, 12:28 PM
(#2)
PanickyPoker's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,168
I overdo it too, sometimes. I spend a lot of my random free time playing poker/studying/on the forums. My regular poker time is after work and I tend to play on and off straight through 1am, but if I have a day off, I don't always make much of an effort to do something besides playing poker.

I think that making sure that you get enough sleep at the time you prefer to sleep (I do not prefer sleeping 10am-6pm, but have done it before) is important, along with not missing any of your other scheduled activities because of poker. If you manage to give time regularly to the other parts of your life (work, friends, exercise, rest, etc.) then you'll have a fair degree of balance. I just try and reserve specific hours each day for what I know I have to do those days, and try not to have them affect each other. So in my case, that would mean that if I played PSO, I would never habitually play four in one day, because I would want to keep poker in its designated block of time (6pm-1am). I'm not perfect with my own time management yet, but that's sort of my philosophy at the moment.
 
Old
Default
Tue May 17, 2011, 01:54 PM
(#3)
topthecat's Avatar
Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,962
I like the idea of designated blocks, but if i have eight hours for sleep, eight hours for poker and eight hours for work, I run out of blocks. LOL

It was really Drew300 who got me thinking about this as he has limited time to play the PSO, and considering a game is round 3 hours to get ITM, it is a fairly heavy time investment if you want to do well in the League. A lot of the top ranked folks have played 50 plus games already this month and that is roughly 150 hours which is a 75hour week. Some people even play 5 or 6 PSO tournies a day which is mind boggling to me. I could not do it.

I am probably relying too much on PSO to supplement my bankroll. i guess I would be better served moving up a level in ring games, maybe a level up in the 50/50s. I don't want to give up freerolls because free money always appeals and I am pretty crap in the low stake MTTs and SnGs.

Thanks for the ideas Panicky.

TC
 
Old
Default
Tue May 17, 2011, 02:56 PM
(#4)
bogweed1964's Avatar
Since: Jan 2010
Posts: 774
Quote:
Originally Posted by topthecat View Post
Time management is a real problem for me.

I played 4 PSOs yesterday over a ten hour stint, whilst playing some other freerolls and a few other games at the same time. I usually had 4 tables going until the last PSO tournament.

I am completely knackered today after getting to bed at 5am and really do not have the energy or the enthusiasm to play poker. And I believe it is not good to play when you are not in the right frame of mind.

I am hoping that some of the more experienced players (who do not seem to have an off switch) could put forward their thoughts and strategies on achieving a practical balance that allow you to play poker and continue having a life as well. I realise that a lot of it has to do with hard work, effort, perseverance and diligence but also planning your time.

Any tips greatly appreciated.

TC

Top playing 4 PSO a month is enough to drain anyones enthusiasm for poker let alone in one day.

I completely agree that you should not play if not in the right frame of mind, thats when I surf porn instead.

In a fleeting moment of seriousness though I would say that during the week I play the odd game in "practise mode", this whets my appetite and at weekends when I have more time I select more carefully what I'm playing and play them with an "objective" in mind. I don't multi-table (excessively) and I take breaks to re-charge my batteries, absorb what mistakes and what I have learned before returning to the tables.

I generally have a plan of what I am going to play that day and what my aims and objectives for that session are, (see my blog on the 7 P's), I don't always follow it fully as with all things poker be prepared to adapt.

Don't get hung up about losses, don't get cocky about victories, long term improvement and profitability is the aim. Take time after each game to reflect on where you went wrong or right, 9 out of 10 bad beats will become obvious bad plays on your part when the dust has settled, suck em in, forget em and move on.

What I have also found very useful is hanging out at Jokers Wild Home Club whilst I play, not a plug for that home club but merely saying that having other people around to chat to whilst playing and to bounce off during or after you have played is good, same with Suited Aces or any active Home Club.

Whilst poker is a solo game the camaraderie element of it should never be ignored and having friends to rail and to rail you is an additional bonus available with online poker, particularly when learning.

Last but not least a couple of decent bottles of red usually helps the session along, make it three and you're results don't matter, by 5am your hungover and skint
 
Old
Default
Tue May 17, 2011, 03:50 PM
(#5)
topthecat's Avatar
Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,962
Excellent reply Bogweed and a great blog as well.

I am probably the most disorganised, procrastinating and lazy individual on this site. I never have a clear plan or objective, nor do I employ any of the other subtle nuances that you mention in your blog which can certainly give an edge. The only time that I actually do something right is when I have to do it and that puts me at a great disadvantage all the other times.

Like tonight for instance, i promised myself not to play any poker, to try and study up on the game and get to bed early; yet now there is a tiny little devil on my shoulder, saying that maybe I could just play one PSO tourney and a few freerolls.

I am also easily distracted and if a bit of banter gets going at a table, I am in the middle of it and lose all focus. I don't play many HomeGames which may be a blessing in disguise for myself and others because i could talk the leg off a stool.

PSO games are a grind, I agree, but I still feel they can serve a purpose for me at this point. I used to take a beer between every break and then maybe a bottle of red later in the night as well, more to keep me anesthetised than anything else, but I found my results have improved by keeping the alcohol to the minimum.

It would be good to hear from the real PSO grinders on the subject.

Thanks again for the reply and advice Bogweed.

Time to get disciplined

TC
 
Old
Default
Tue May 17, 2011, 05:03 PM
(#6)
bogweed1964's Avatar
Since: Jan 2010
Posts: 774
Like most things Top one mans food is anothers poison, what works for some doesn't work for others, Its all a matter of you finding what works for you.

Some people find a days break from playing steels them for the next day, for others they may need a week or a month.

Psychology in poker is a major factor and not just in the game itself, some people can't discard a "bad beat" or an unlucky river easily, I find it easy to shrug off the last game and move to the next without carrying any trappings from the last with me.

Sometimes you may find when you have "vowed" not to play that evening the devil on your shoulder will say "go on, get in" and you do and you win, again partially psychology in that you're relaxed and have entered with a carefree attitude, you lose hey-ho you were just killing time.

The day upon day grind of the Skill League is psychologically very taxing, rushing home from work/college/brothel to make a tourney so you can get the quantity in you need, playing beyond your "sleep zone" to get an extra tourney in, it all adds up to making the Skill League with the pressure of making positive points a chore rather than a pleasure.

Sure the payout at the end of the month may seem to make it rewarding but when you analyse the time spent playing it to the pay back it doesn't look such a good deal for the effort and time put in, unless you hit those top spots of course.

Last month for example I made $50 by playing 50 Skill League tourneys, if we take a conservative average of 90 mins per game thats 75 hours (over 3 full days) of play yielding $1.50 per hour for playing non-educational stressful non-poker. If i had applied that same amount of time elsewhere I think not only could I have earned more but I could have learned more and have endured far less stress doing so.

If you are hell bent on grinding the Skill League then I doubt there is a stress free way of doing it.
 
Old
Default
Thu May 19, 2011, 06:54 PM
(#7)
spike8998's Avatar
Since: Apr 2010
Posts: 853
Co-ordinator: Hi everyone and welcome to this weeks meeting

spike: Hi

Co-ordinator: OK , Hmmm lets see , who would like to start this week ?
How about you monkey features ?

spike: Not really , how about someone else ?

Co-ordinator:Its ok we are all friends here , don't be shy !

spike:All right then, HI my names spike8998 and I'm a poker addict
 
Old
Default
Thu May 19, 2011, 08:05 PM
(#8)
!!!111Dan's Avatar
Since: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,290
One thing I'd mention Top after reading through this a bit. I would suggest not doing the freerolls and the pso at the same time. Talk about two totally different mindsets.
As far as time management...I sometimes would put a limit on my pso play...especially if I did well in the first one or two that I played..personally, I just liked seeing positive points each day.
Just my .02 ..best o' luck!
 
Old
Default
Fri May 20, 2011, 05:23 AM
(#9)
topthecat's Avatar
Since: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,962
LOL @ Spike

You are right Dan, I play 50/50 and ring at the same time as well and playing four completely different formats does get your head in a spin. I may knock it down to just two tables, because PSO on it's own may not be enough to keep me awake

My reasons for playing PSO are twofold: I want to improve my game and I want to build a big enough bankroll to get back to playing 3/6 and 5/10 cash. After depositing 1000's and being down to 11 cents I promised myself I would never deposit again. I have a reasonable bankroll now, but I want to build it further and just don't have enough confidence yet to move up. PSO is like my apprenticeship to get where I want to be.

Best of luck to you too, Dan.

TC
 

Getting PokerStars is easy: download and install the PokerStars game software, create your free player account, and validate your email address. Clicking on the download poker button will lead to the installation of compatible poker software on your PC of 51.7 MB, which will enable you to register and play poker on the PokerStars platform. To uninstall PokerStars use the Windows uninstaller: click Start > Control Panel and then select Add or Remove programs > Select PokerStars and click Uninstall or Remove.

Copyright (c) PokerSchoolOnline.com. All rights reserved, Rational Group, Douglas Bay Complex, King Edward Road, Onchan, Isle of Man, IM3 1DZ. You can email us on support@pokerschoolonline.com