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Is this collusion? - Thu May 19, 2011, 04:47 PM
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Durring a game today a player (Link2Me) entered the chat box and told another player to go allin against me and another player who is on around the same pts as him is this allowed? and if its not what is the penalty for it.
Link2me [observer]: right on woody keep playing all in agianst steve and de hitman
I would class this as very un-sportsmanship play as i dont no the player and he is in direct competition with me as were on the same amount of pts in the top 50, Has this player done this to any-one else in the league? if so i think he needs reporting for it.
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 05:33 PM
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that type of chat is 100% unacceptable. Pls send the hand history with chat to support.
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 07:41 PM
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Like JW said..unacceptable.
The penalty will be a chat ban, (or possibly just a warning if this is their first offense) as support sees fit. The bans will increase in length for each offense, until the maximum of a permanent expulsion from pokerstars is reached. This is why it's so important to reach support at every offense that you encounter. Eventually, these players will be playing elsewhere.

Link, I'm not sure if you have a forum ban because I haven't seen you lately. As someone who attempted to help and befriend you when you came to the pso, I will ask you to calm down. Lately your actions in the forum and tables has taken a turn for the deplorable. If you can't compete with someone at the tables, don't ask others to do your work for you. This is a community of respectable and friendly people. Deceptive talk is one thing at the tables, but collusion and insults are just not part of the game, or acceptable.

To report this, like JW said, email chat@pokerstars.com with the hand history from this game, which will include all chat. You may also send your info to support@pokerschoolonline.com , they are pretty good at keeping tabs on people who continuously disrupt the community.
Best o' luck!
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 07:52 PM
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Since we are talking about collusion and it happens to be some one I dislike I offer the following:

PokerStars Game #61385461093: Tournament #379718630, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2011/04/27 12:06:14 PT [2011/04/27 15:06:14 ET]
Table '379718630 3' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: xXxSmokiexXx (8267 in chips)
Seat 2: De Hitman (13547 in chips)
Seat 3: farnhamboy (1580 in chips)
Seat 4: Spadedust (23971 in chips)
Seat 5: GG0610 (2840 in chips)
Seat 6: BiggBlue (9342 in chips)
Seat 7: swilliams690 (9280 in chips)
Seat 8: doobie818 (6005 in chips)
Seat 9: sacsain (1812 in chips)
xXxSmokiexXx: posts the ante 100
De Hitman: posts the ante 100
farnhamboy: posts the ante 100
Spadedust: posts the ante 100
GG0610: posts the ante 100
BiggBlue: posts the ante 100
swilliams690: posts the ante 100
doobie818: posts the ante 100
sacsain: posts the ante 100
De Hitman: posts small blind 500
farnhamboy: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Spadedust: folds
GG0610 has timed out
GG0610: folds
GG0610 is sitting out
BiggBlue: folds
swilliams690: folds
De Hitman said, "7 to go"
doobie818: folds
GG0610 has returned
farnhamboy said, "pot committed"
sacsain has timed out
sacsain: folds
sacsain is sitting out
sacsain has returned
De Hitman said, "gl"
xXxSmokiexXx: folds
farnhamboy said, "ty"
De Hitman: calls 500
De Hitman said, "il let you checjk it dwn"
xXxSmokiexXx said, "i had 2 5 lol"
farnhamboy: checks
*** FLOP *** [7h 2h Qd]
De Hitman: checks
farnhamboy: checks
*** TURN *** [7h 2h Qd] [Kc]
De Hitman: checks
farnhamboy: checks
*** RIVER *** [7h 2h Qd Kc] [Td]
sacsain said, "this aint datiin service play properly lol"
De Hitman: checks
farnhamboy: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
De Hitman: shows [Ac 6h] (high card Ace)
farnhamboy: shows [3s 3c] (a pair of Threes)
farnhamboy collected 2900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2900 | Rake 0
Board [7h 2h Qd Kc Td]
Seat 1: xXxSmokiexXx (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: De Hitman (small blind) showed [Ac 6h] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: farnhamboy (big blind) showed [3s 3c] and won (2900) with a pair of Threes
Seat 4: Spadedust folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: GG0610 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BiggBlue folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: swilliams690 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: doobie818 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: sacsain folded before Flop (didn't bet)


PokerStars Game #61385656643: Tournament #379718630, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2011/04/27 12:10:13 PT [2011/04/27 15:10:13 ET]
Table '379718630 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: xXxSmokiexXx (8167 in chips)
Seat 2: De Hitman (12447 in chips)
Seat 3: farnhamboy (3380 in chips)
Seat 4: Spadedust (23871 in chips)
Seat 5: GG0610 (2740 in chips)
Seat 6: BiggBlue (9242 in chips)
Seat 7: swilliams690 (9180 in chips)
Seat 8: doobie818 (5905 in chips)
Seat 9: sacsain (1712 in chips)
xXxSmokiexXx: posts the ante 100
De Hitman: posts the ante 100
farnhamboy: posts the ante 100
Spadedust: posts the ante 100
GG0610: posts the ante 100
BiggBlue: posts the ante 100
swilliams690: posts the ante 100
doobie818: posts the ante 100
sacsain: posts the ante 100
farnhamboy: posts small blind 500
Spadedust: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
xXxSmokiexXx said, "lmao"
De Hitman said, "nh"
farnhamboy said, "ty hitman"
farnhamboy said, "will return the favour"
GG0610 has timed out
GG0610: folds
GG0610 is sitting out
GG0610 has returned
BiggBlue: folds
De Hitman said, "np"
swilliams690: calls 1000
doobie818: folds
sacsain has timed out
sacsain: folds
sacsain is sitting out
sacsain has returned
xXxSmokiexXx: folds
De Hitman: folds
farnhamboy has timed out
farnhamboy: folds
farnhamboy is sitting out
farnhamboy has returned
Spadedust: checks
*** FLOP *** [Ah 9c 7h]
Spadedust: bets 1000
swilliams690: calls 1000
*** TURN *** [Ah 9c 7h] [5s]
Spadedust: bets 1000
swilliams690: calls 1000
*** RIVER *** [Ah 9c 7h 5s] [Jc]
Spadedust: bets 2000
swilliams690: folds
Uncalled bet (2000) returned to Spadedust
Spadedust collected 7400 from pot
Spadedust: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 7400 | Rake 0
Board [Ah 9c 7h 5s Jc]
Seat 1: xXxSmokiexXx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: De Hitman (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: farnhamboy (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Spadedust (big blind) collected (7400)
Seat 5: GG0610 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BiggBlue folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: swilliams690 folded on the River
Seat 8: doobie818 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: sacsain folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I got more but this is just a taste to point out it sucks to live in a glass house.
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 07:57 PM
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Hitman

 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 07:58 PM
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Good job Cookies
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 08:16 PM
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Hmmmmm....seems like a few people need to read #15 through #21 here..particularly #20.
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/policies/
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 08:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Deleted user View Post
sacsain said, "this aint datiin service play properly lol"
I found that line quite amusing.

Quote:
I got more but this is just a taste to point out it sucks to live in a glass house.
So would he be the pot, or the kettle?

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Thu May 19, 2011, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by !!!111Dan View Post
Hmmmmm....seems like a few people need to read #15 through #21 here..particularly #20.
http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/policies/
But of course there's no need for any type of rules test...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by ssuglia View Post
But of course there's no need for any type of rules test...

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Lol Steve...
...I found sac's line amusing too.

 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 08:55 PM
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Seems to be a collusion profusion.

Glad to see all the campers are still happy.
 
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Thu May 19, 2011, 11:59 PM
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if so i think he needs reporting for it.
Hmmm, I think both players shown to be colluding in this thread need reporting.
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 02:08 AM
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Yep. It's collusion.

Also, thanks to CrumbyCondomz, it's very, very funny.

In that "there are a bunch of people here that ignore the rules" kind-of-way.

Eff me. No matter how goofy this place gets, all I can think is that I really want to get back here and play for real again. Soon.

Thanks for making me laugh, folks. This thread is an instant classic.

30 peeps told me so.
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 02:25 AM
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Black stones throwing kettles in pot glasshouses, hope that the rolling moss gathers no stone on its way to the report submission.

Think this one deserves a double face palm.

 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 06:11 AM
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LOL Bog

Collusion: another bugbear of mine, along with abuse at the tables and rife in the PSO league at the moment.

Fair play to Dan for speaking up about Link2me and kudos to Cookies for highlighting the double standards of the OP

As Dan says report it, the sooner these type of players are chat banned or face the ultimate sanction of being removed from the site the better.

TC
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 08:38 AM
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Fri May 20, 2011, 08:52 AM
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Well if you look at the chip stacks and possition of the players you'll see that were in the SB + BB
and as (farnamboy) is pot commited having 1100 of his 1500 in the pot i knew he would'nt think twice about calling the other 400 if i raised it as he would be allin in the next hand regardless so my talk was more a double bluff to see the river with-out paying him more than i had to check the talk and you'll see i tried to scare him with " 7 Left " before the flop to stop him from shoving after i acheived this my next aim was to see the river card for free which is why i said " I'll let you check it down" and i did get to see the river card with out paying another 400. If this was collusion i surely would of folded at the river card to make sure he won the pot or told him my hole cards to see if he had me beat. Many good players do resist the chance to double up a small stack and this was one instance of talking my way to the river card with out having to give him another 400 (farnamboys) reply of thank you i'll return the favour I'm sure was more of a polite ty and relived he survied the hand and was still in the tourney. I dont no farnamboy and was not trying to help him out, Like i said before IF i was i would surely of asked what hole cards he was holding before the showdown to make sure he won the hand or folded after the flop to give him the pot. If this is collusion then i was'nt aware of this and will not use this tactic again. As for the collusion i reported here is totally different for a player (Link2me) to come to your chat box when he's not sat at the table, and tell his freind who happens to have a massive chip lead over the rest of the table "to go allin against 2 players who happend to be on around the same amount of points as him (link2me) just because he had an early retirement. Then i class this as very un-sportsmanship like and was intrested to find out if he does this on a regular basis. Im sure none of the top 50 players would be pleased if an apponant came to there table after retiring early and proceeded to tell another player to attack them to try and get them elliminated from reaching ITM. And as for "Iseecookies" it seems you just cant get me off your mind as this game happened almost 1 month ago, so you must be keeping a dosier on my games and progress very sad mate you really should get a life Try yoga it may help with your obsessions.
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 08:54 AM
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Kind of on the same subject, I' m becoming convince that some players are either very good friends (or the alter ego) of other top runners.

A few time now a maniac player has seemed to be targeting me or other high league runners. If we're on SB, BB or open the betting they put in large bets or shove.

I would exspect some players to check the league and use this to thier advantage, knowing high runners will not take risks. Fair enough. Good tactic. These player generaly don't play that much and do sometimes score pionts.

The ones that worry me are the ones that play nearly every game, but nearly always have big minus scores. Unless these guy have an altera motive I can't see why they're playing this way.

I've seen multi-accounting mentioned here before. Still happening?

Don't like conspiracy theories, but...
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 08:59 AM
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Can You See Whats Been Wrote In The Forum Now Ericnnancy?
Yes Brian, Thats Much Better Than The Rose Tinted Glasses
 
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Fri May 20, 2011, 09:02 AM
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There are idiots who play every game and shove every hand. There was one of these on the table I was at yesterday, kept shoving every hand, saying he was just having fun. What he meant was he was having fun ruining the game for everyone else at the table. He donk knocked out about 5 players before he sat out.
 

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