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AK against aggressive players - Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:23 PM
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k not sure how to make the hand player work but did I do right here or should I have smooth called all bets?

PokerStars Game #63583690803: Tournament #397948286, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/06/20 13:05:00 ET
Table '397948286 11' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: lioba575 (1330 in chips)
Seat 2: andycap523 (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: gonzalo443 (1430 in chips)
Seat 4: DRAGO156 (1380 in chips)
Seat 5: Bones31271 (1540 in chips)
Seat 6: PKRCHAMPNZ (1400 in chips)
Seat 7: rodelzki (1500 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: e2110381 (1930 in chips)
Seat 9: sarkany666 (1500 in chips)
PKRCHAMPNZ: posts small blind 10
rodelzki: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bones31271 [As Kc]
e2110381: raises 110 to 130
sarkany666: folds
lioba575: folds
andycap523: folds
gonzalo443: folds
DRAGO156: raises 130 to 260
Bones31271: folds
PKRCHAMPNZ: calls 250
rodelzki: folds
e2110381: raises 540 to 800
DRAGO156: raises 580 to 1380 and is all-in
PKRCHAMPNZ: raises 20 to 1400 and is all-in
e2110381: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Tc 7h 8d]
*** TURN *** [Tc 7h 8d] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 7h 8d 2d] [4c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PKRCHAMPNZ: shows [Ac 9c] (high card Ace)
e2110381: shows [Kh Qh] (high card King)
PKRCHAMPNZ collected 40 from side pot
DRAGO156: shows [Jh Qc] (high card Queen)
PKRCHAMPNZ collected 4160 from main pot
DRAGO156 finished the tournament in 522nd place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4200 Main pot 4160. Side pot 40. | Rake 0
Board [Tc 7h 8d 2d 4c]
Seat 1: lioba575 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: andycap523 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: gonzalo443 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: DRAGO156 showed [Jh Qc] and lost with high card Queen
Seat 5: Bones31271 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: PKRCHAMPNZ (small blind) showed [Ac 9c] and won (4200) with high card Ace
Seat 7: rodelzki (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: e2110381 showed [Kh Qh] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: sarkany666 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:38 PM
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You made the correct play.

That early in a tourney, without a made hand, you need to muck it. AKo vs three random hands will win less than 40% of the time. And this early in a tourney, they could have ATC, so you need to look at their range as anything.

Yes, you had the best hand, but it is not worth playing for all your chips without a made hand. If others want to do it and donk themselves out, then let them... sit back, relax, get a made hand, then take their chips.
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:40 PM
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when they show the cards that they did, make a note to yourself about what the opponent would push with. That kind of info will help you later in the tourney, as you will now know some of their tendencies and have an idea what they will blindly push with.

pushes any A, any 2 suited, etc are great notes to have.... because if you get into a post-flop situation with them... you'll have more info to judge whether to bet, check or fold. If they'll play any A and you get an A on the flop... if you can't beat a pair of aces, you need to muck... for example.
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:45 PM
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ok tyvm
 
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?? - Mon Jun 20, 2011, 01:46 PM
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replayer is easy man-- copy that hand- clic on replayer in main pso page- clic -hand replayer- in red-- clic the +(plus) icon- top right-- paste hand in window-- clic read data - clic quick save- then clic replay > and it will play for you-- to put in here- clic the link icon -(looks like a blue pretzel)-
copy paste data in field that appears-- shold be 2 lines of data-- into ure post-- if i can do it- u can do it-- prove me wrong- i give you 20 minutes---
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:06 PM
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hmmmmm that didnt work lol looked good in theory lol
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:07 PM
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that not even close-- FAIL -try again-------make sure you can replay the hand- b4 u post here- is a 2 step process- then clic link-
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:13 PM
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like this???

 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:13 PM
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HA :-D
 
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?? - Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:17 PM
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nice- i accept visa-- and i love the fold there- specially if u can feel a clustershuv on the horizon--
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:22 PM
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thats kinda what I foresaw was a bunch of reraises so I decided to get the hell outta dodge, reason i questioned it is cause had I smooth called I would of won the hand and I was like ??????????????? after hand was done lmao
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:23 PM
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tyvm for help by the way, check is in the mail lol ;-)
 
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?? - Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:25 PM
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as dave would say- dont be results oriented- was the right play- rarely will AK win against 3 opps--
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:48 PM
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It's either a fold or a shove. A call would be horrible. Unless you know these guys are good or tight, I'd opt for a shove here. Their raise sizing indicates that they are not good.

There's enough money in the pot that a shove has to be +EV. I don't even care if I get called by JJ. The only hands I'd be worried about are AA and KK and since you have one of each it makes it less likely that someone has two.

This early in a freeroll so many bad players are overplaying any two broadway hands, any ace, etc. A range you absolutely crush. I'm happy to get it in here. I'm not passing up a nice edge like this one.
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:51 PM
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Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
 
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Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:52 PM
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TY Skunk did it first go didnt know how to b4 i mean didnt even try lol
 
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?? - Mon Jun 20, 2011, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oriholic View Post
It's either a fold or a shove. A call would be horrible. Unless you know these guys are good or tight, I'd opt for a shove here. Their raise sizing indicates that they are not good.

There's enough money in the pot that a shove has to be +EV. I don't even care if I get called by JJ. The only hands I'd be worried about are AA and KK and since you have one of each it makes it less likely that someone has two.

This early in a freeroll so many bad players are overplaying any two broadway hands, any ace, etc. A range you absolutely crush. I'm happy to get it in here. I'm not passing up a nice edge like this one.
this was a pso - ori- potential for huge point loss by going out early- outweighs the plus side-- imo-- and no worries Koing- was bugging me for months- so i finally tried it myself--
 

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