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Chat suspensions ect... - Fri Jun 24, 2011, 05:14 PM
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Should people who do something against the rules, chat..dumping ect. be PUBLICALLY reprimanded by the PSO???
Seems like a no brainer to me to use as a deterent. I am talking about all offences, whether or not there are temp suspensions or of the banning of a player. ONLY, once a decision is made. Which seems to be part of the problem.

Apprearance is so important!!, The word I would use is transparency. Kind of important when gambling is concerned

Being a standardbred horse racing fan, I see which drivers/trainers have recieved fines or suspensions clear as a bell listed in the program. Why not here?

A public calling out cannot hurt the situations posted here on a regular basis. And, not by the players, but the PSO or Pokerstars themselves.

Off the box.........next

Dale
 
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?? - Fri Jun 24, 2011, 05:20 PM
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Bounced checks get taped to the cash register for all to see- thats why i am posting all hands from now on -- where players violate the rules- the only problem Dale- is that these clowns dont even know this forum exists-- yet it will make other players aware of who these players are !!
 
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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 05:30 PM
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I was thinking making it as apparent to all as possible. Such as a popup after log in perhaps.
Has to be a large deterrent and has to be super easily accessible to all.

Dale
 
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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 06:42 PM
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How about just a mention, such as a link, to a suspension page so all know while logging on...or similiar??

Would this not show potential cheaters how seriousely it is taken here??

Dale

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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 09:00 PM
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this thread should be way more important...change the name to something more sexy perhaps??

Lets find solutions to the same problems. Make sure cheating in whatever form is extremely frowned upon, and easy as hell to see everytime you log on.

Dale
 
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Get on board - Fri Jun 24, 2011, 10:48 PM
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For all you freakin guys who keep posting hand history complaining non freakin stop, have not responded here.

I am suggesting a solution, WOW how about that, to the probs that continue to be posted here. Do you guys just want to bitch and whine or fix this???????

Yep, that was a challenge to you all posting hand histories ect...

Lets all make it better....or sucking and whining continues........

Your responses will tell me how serious you guys/gals really freakin are.

Up to it???

Dale
 
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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 11:06 PM
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Today has been a bit of a crazy day Dale.

I wan't you to know that I've noted this thread and even mentioned it in another.

But today started with some players...very well respected here imo...trying to generate some interest in rule ....application... I guess would be the word.
It wasn't a good start to the day lets just say.

Now, I feel ya', and believe me, many do..but some may be weary of chiming in on this again as they genuinely feel they're not getting progress. It can be tiring mentally. I'm talking about players that have been here for the full year since the pso started here with pokerstars so..they know what they're saying.
But.... I think you'll get some more feedback on this..just give it a little time.

Keep up the good work Dale and be patient..you've been a good contributor since joining so good on ya'.
There have been so many rule violators brought here to the forum...main one was when this place was on a multi-accounting tear. Players were catching 'em all the time until they dropped the city from our avatar and went to just listing the country. Man did that blow.

So this place does have concern and the ability to make a difference.
Just keep your cool...watch the swearing ..and keep up the good work.
We'll be talking more about this soon I believe.
 
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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 11:21 PM
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Thank you for the response. Sorry about the language but it seems that SHOCK works. Kinda sad but true.

As a coordinator, is it possible for you to suggest this to the upper crust here?
Open and honest, especially now, will serve Stars massively. It is business. This is from a business owner.

Trust is everything., A popup behind the "Latest News" when you log on would show how serious it is taken here. MORE business, and better for all. Trust will create this.

Less ummm....debate here...more trust would be good for all. Too simple, perhaps?

Dale
 
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Fri Jun 24, 2011, 11:40 PM
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Sure, I'll mention this.
We have a "meeting" coming very soon to discuss a few things.
Now most of the time I don't discuss things that we discuss in private, but I will make a post this time and discuss what I can.
I don't try to hide stuff, but if it's pointless to bring up in the forum, then I don't do it.
Just know that the PSO Admin and Staff do have their hands tied by pokerstars on certain things, but they do listen and take things into consideration.
It's about all I can ask for.
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 12:17 AM
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I will tell you this, the response of the big boys will be negative toward an early pop up idea in regards to cheating. They will view it as showing weakness, that, maybe cheating is happening on this site.
It is!!!!!!! To one degree or another. Gee go figure.

The smart business approach is to continue to be honest, admit it happens. Then bury the dough heads that do!!

It will show to all, if it is followed up on. that cheating is your top priority. Published clearly, all of the names and their infractions for all to see!!
Are they smart enough too see this??

This is NOT a weakness, it's a strength!!!!!

Dale
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 12:25 AM
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If the powers that be are listening, then they've had lots of info in the last day or so. There are a lot of peeps here that are concerned about the state of the league and PSO in general.

If we can't teach people not to cheat, then how can we possibly teach them to play poker?? If we can't teach them etiquette, how can we teach them anything?? If this is a school, then I respectfully suggest that teaching common courtesy and the rules of the game should be paramount.
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 12:41 AM
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From our side, continuing to whine about the same things, proprer or not, will fall on deaf ears.

The "Boy that cried wolf"

Instead of continuing to point out the problems without offering legit sollutiions is such a waste.

Pointing out probs is one thing, finding LEGIT solutions is another. We have to give them someting to really work with.

Dale

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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 02:09 AM
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To say briefly once again;

I provided a legit sollution to a huge problem, totally confused by the lack of responses????

Starting to think that all the complaining about the PSO is just bs. Whining and nothing more.

Disappointed, nite all

Dale
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 02:28 AM
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Is all I can think of at the moment

http://www.pokerschoolonline.com/for...n-does-it-stop

Name and shame them to the powers that be
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 04:30 AM
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I just wanted to give a big heads up to !!!111Dan, the only member of the PSO team that has actually had the balls to state an opinion on the area of "rule application".

Fair play to you Dan and keep up the good work!

TC
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 10:32 AM
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I've avoided joining in the continued posts highlighting the shortcomings of both PSO and PS with regards to dealing with violations of rules, to be honest I've decided not to waste my time in contributing here to any great extent, I've seen enough to know that you can only bang your head against a brick wall for so long before you will suffer brain damage.

I thought though it may be of interest to know how seriously PS takes these violations, I recently reported yet another player who pronounced during pre-flop betting that they had AA, this during a Tombaugh freeroll, the response received was as follows, a glowing testament to the high standards of PS and how apparently cheating and abusing your way through freerolls is acceptable as it cannot be punished.


Hello David,

Thank you for contacting us.

Regarding your rules complaint, we unfortunately are not able to enforce real money poker room rules in our play money games and some freeroll events. The reason is play money hand histories are not archived (for game server performance reasons), so we cannot review the hands to identify rule violations. Even if you send us a copy, we need to locate and review the hand on our side.

While we understand many players exclusively participate in play money games and/or freerolls and understandably object to poor behavior from others, we hope they can also understand our position.

Of course, in PokerStars' real money games, such players will encounter a dedicated team of Poker Specialists, who monitor the games and strictly enforce our real money rules. Even at the lowest limits, such as $0.10 tournaments and 1c/2c cash games, players who break rules will, depending on the nature of the offense, receive warnings or permanent bans from our site.

If you have any further questions, please let us know, and thank you for making PokerStars your choice for online poker.

Regards,

Silvia F.
PokerStars Support Team
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 10:42 AM
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Good luck with the meeting Dan by the way, may be worth pointing out to them, not that I think they will be concerned, that players such as myself who see no discernable response or action from PSO with regards to issues raised by the membership can no longer bring themselves to support the League by taking part in it and find it difficult to see the benefit in attempting to contribute positively to this forum.

Now let me go find that suggestion box thread.
 
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?? - Sat Jun 25, 2011, 10:49 AM
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hay bog== me tired too- but- i aint quittin this fight- its wrong on so many levels- for a league- with SCHOOL in its name- to not teach and enforce the basics-- and hey- i did a system restore- can u drop me an email- ive lost ure addy-- ty S.
 
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Sat Jun 25, 2011, 11:07 AM
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i have been here only a couple of months now,i dont spend a lot ,things are tight ,but i do play some cash games,and i enjoy the league ,most of the time,lol. i have read the forums and posted,i would hate to think a poker site as big as pokerstars is nott doing all it can to protect us players,GREAT IDEA ,i would look at those who have cheated,i know of one that is under investigation and have wondered what happened ,i was dissapointed as i thought he was a good player,and there are a lot here whom are great ppl aswell ,i hope pokerstars considers this ,or ask us for a vote

GOOD LUCK DALE

 

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