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Analysis Please - Mon Jul 11, 2011, 10:32 PM
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Since: Aug 2010
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PokerStars Game #64448097083: Tournament #411630616, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/07/12 3:27:56 WET [2011/07/11 22:27:56 ET]
Table '411630616 136' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: kawi06 (12198 in chips)
Seat 2: Toonarmy1566 (7816 in chips)
Seat 3: Cryppie (9889 in chips)
Seat 4: madnewf (5930 in chips)
Seat 5: victorcj13 (7997 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 6: Zavaluev1969 (8712 in chips)
Seat 7: halfwits (2203 in chips)
Seat 8: flopflipfish (4005 in chips)
Seat 9: Tobi_20j (30630 in chips)
kawi06: posts the ante 50
Toonarmy1566: posts the ante 50
Cryppie: posts the ante 50
madnewf: posts the ante 50
victorcj13: posts the ante 50
Zavaluev1969: posts the ante 50
halfwits: posts the ante 50
flopflipfish: posts the ante 50
Tobi_20j: posts the ante 50
Cryppie: posts small blind 200
madnewf: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Toonarmy1566 [Ad Qs]
victorcj13: folds
Zavaluev1969: folds
halfwits: calls 400
flopflipfish: folds
Tobi_20j: raises 2000 to 2400
kawi06: calls 2400
Toonarmy1566: raises 5366 to 7766 and is all-in
Cryppie: folds
madnewf: folds
halfwits: calls 1753 and is all-in
Tobi_20j: calls 5366
kawi06: folds
*** FLOP *** [Jc 3s 7d]
*** TURN *** [Jc 3s 7d] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [Jc 3s 7d Th] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Tobi_20j: shows [Kh Ts] (a pair of Tens)
Toonarmy1566: shows [Ad Qs] (high card Ace)
Tobi_20j collected 11473 from side pot
halfwits: shows [Jd Td] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)
halfwits collected 9662 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 21135 Main pot 9662. Side pot 11473. | Rake 0
Board [Jc 3s 7d Th 2h]
Seat 1: kawi06 folded before Flop
Seat 2: Toonarmy1566 (button) showed [Ad Qs] and lost with high card Ace
Seat 3: Cryppie (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: madnewf (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: victorcj13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Zavaluev1969 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: halfwits showed [Jd Td] and won (9662) with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 8: flopflipfish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Tobi_20j showed [Kh Ts] and won (11473) with a pair of Tens
I dont know how to use the replayer, but i was past the bubble and quite happy finishing where i did.
 
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Mon Jul 11, 2011, 10:51 PM
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now i'm no analiser or anything but seeing someone make a 6X raise followed by a flat caller tells me straight away just to get out of that pot with AQo. you have just over 19bb's left so there is a lot of game left in you. i let this go, get my hands on a better hand and apply the pressure, make them make the weak calls.

for me to make your move of reshoving i'm gonna want to have one of these 3: QQ/KK/AA, maybe AK added in there also. even though when the cards were flipped and you were ahead you were still up against it imo.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2011, 02:46 AM
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At least you didn't flat to take the flop...

Realistically, this is TOTALLY a ranging decision in League play, simply because you state you have passed your plus point margin and were "happy" to bust out if it came to that.

Without idea of what you think these guys will stand on, there is no way to say if AQo is "enough".
We cannot simply look at what they DID call with, because when you had to make your decision, that info was not known...

so break it down to things that you "need" answers to before it is possible to say is an AQo shove over a raiser and a caller is good or not:

1) Raise and call range for the 2 opponents.
2) Stack awareness for each opponent (is a 20 to 25% or a 55% to 60% loss enough to get 'em to fold cheese?)
3) How many pts a more conservative approach may garner you by not standing here?
4) How improtant league finishes are to you.
5) Effects of a depth of run at your level

(I'll be honest, I havent done the same level of analysis on the new system as I put in on the old. I've no clue really if plus points is super flat to ITM still, or if it has changed.)

Looking at the hands these guys showed down, I think I am going to find a BETTER spot to double or triple up than this down the road; like a heads up situation with an AQo versus the weak ranges they show here. I have enough chips that I can see another orbit or 2 without it killing me, and that isn't even going to push me SEVERELY into the PSO "ladder climb" mode.

So for league play, 2 players in may make this a bit loose.
 
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Tue Jul 12, 2011, 12:46 PM
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a limp, a raise to 6BB and a call before you at this level (many of the LAG's are out already).... I'd be mucking AQ there. If you were isolated against one opponent, I could see shoving with it, but against multiple opponents without a made hand before your chips go in... with that stack, I'd muck and try to find a better situation to get my chips into.

The push may get rid of the limper, but the other two are probably staying (the short stack should stay with ATC for the amount of chips in the pot compared to their stack). Putting one of them as a random hand and the other pairs/broadway/suited connectors or 1gap... your AQ will only win less than 45%. With as many chips as you have, you're better off waiting and playing against only 1 opponent (or with a monster hand if you can get one).
 
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Thu Jul 28, 2011, 12:22 AM
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Since: Jul 2011
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Well i would say you played the hand just fine considering it was against mr big stack :P i guess you can expect big stacks here to lean towards bad aggresive not properly understanding calling ranges to shoves and even shoving ranges lol actually alot of the players in that pso freeroll will fall under that category............ so meh imo well done unlucky :/
 

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