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Can I move up to bigger SNGs yet? - Thu Jul 21, 2011, 02:56 AM
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I started with $100 and played some of the smallest nlhe games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) and the smallest plo8 games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) available where I play. I realized that I suck at the nlhe cash games and could barely profit from plo8 so I switched to nlhe sng's. I've had some success with the sng's and grew my bankroll that had dwindled to $80 up to $175. The games that I play now are all nlhe sngs, mostly 1 table but some games are up to 5 tables, some of them are bounty, some are turbo, and some are regular and I'm able to profit from all of them; I also play $1 rebuy/addon tourneys. I've never played sng's with more than a $2 buyin yet and I'm wondering if my roll is large enough to safely start to add $5 sngs into my mix. I think its probably safe to do so long as I keep the $1 and $2 games as my focus, but I'd like to have some input from some more experienced players before I start.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 10:01 AM
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Here's the formula I use based on what's currently sitting in my account and the availability of the games.

27 man SNG's:-

20+ @ $5
20+ @ $7
20+ @ $10
20+ @ $15
20+ @ $20
25+ @ $30
25+ @ $50

Switch to $5 50/50's below $100

I know you generally play a different (STT's) format, but so far I've found there's little difference in the skill level at any of the buy ins. In fact I'd go so far as to say the games actually get easier up the $15 level. I don't yet know if this will hold true at $30 as I only played my first one last night, but I got 3rd place for $131.53 so the initial signs are good
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 10:04 AM
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I started with $100 and played some of the smallest nlhe games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) and the smallest plo8 games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) available where I play. I realized that I suck at the nlhe cash games and could barely profit from plo8 so I switched to nlhe sng's. I've had some success with the sng's and grew my bankroll that had dwindled to $80 up to $175. The games that I play now are all nlhe sngs, mostly 1 table but some games are up to 5 tables, some of them are bounty, some are turbo, and some are regular and I'm able to profit from all of them; I also play $1 rebuy/addon tourneys. I've never played sng's with more than a $2 buyin yet and I'm wondering if my roll is large enough to safely start to add $5 sngs into my mix. I think its probably safe to do so long as I keep the $1 and $2 games as my focus, but I'd like to have some input from some more experienced players before I start.
My first question is do you multi-table? If so you could probably throw in 1 of them MAYBE 2 and if you still get profit from them continue. I feel your BR isn't large enough to play $5 sitngo's but if you can profit from them why not? If you start losing just continue with the $1 and $2 ones
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 12:42 PM
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Darkman is a good player so his requirements for bankroll are not for newer players.

Some people say 30 Buyins for the next lvl min. to move up and if you want to protect yourself from
swings,tilt and the odd drunk game,I would look to have at least 50 buyins to move up.Move down
when you hit less than 30 buyins for that lvl.

Real nitty players wait till they have 200 Buyins for that lvl,one plus side to that is they rarely move back down.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 03:16 PM
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My first question is do you multi-table? If so you could probably throw in 1 of them MAYBE 2 and if you still get profit from them continue. I feel your BR isn't large enough to play $5 sitngo's but if you can profit from them why not? If you start losing just continue with the $1 and $2 ones
Yes, I do mult-table, usually I have about 6 tables running when I play, occasionally a couple more.
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 05:58 PM
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Then sure throw in 1 or 2 $5 ones, you probably won't even notice that much of a difference unless you really concentrate on the $5 ones (lol try not to do that) I'm sure you'll do fine
 
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Thu Jul 21, 2011, 10:15 PM
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I started with $100 and played some of the smallest nlhe games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) and the smallest plo8 games (.02/.04 $4 max buy-in) available where I play. I realized that I suck at the nlhe cash games and could barely profit from plo8 so I switched to nlhe sng's. I've had some success with the sng's and grew my bankroll that had dwindled to $80 up to $175. The games that I play now are all nlhe sngs, mostly 1 table but some games are up to 5 tables, some of them are bounty, some are turbo, and some are regular and I'm able to profit from all of them; I also play $1 rebuy/addon tourneys. I've never played sng's with more than a $2 buyin yet and I'm wondering if my roll is large enough to safely start to add $5 sngs into my mix. I think its probably safe to do so long as I keep the $1 and $2 games as my focus, but I'd like to have some input from some more experienced players before I start.
Look at the bankroll management lessons here. Google it for a bunch of info that's available. I used to have one link, I believe it was called Poker Bank, that had really cool tools to use, but I believe there is something wrong with my link, or the site has changed. Since I've switched browsers, I don't have it saved any more. But there is a lot to choose from....google both bankroll management, and bankroll calculator.
There is a lot of advice on the time to move up, be it cash or tourney, .....several sites list different amounts, depending on YOU as a player...pro, beginner, etc., so you should be able to get a good idea.
 

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