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Live poker is rigged! - Sun Jul 31, 2011, 07:13 PM
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Hi all,

I was playing a tournament on Saturday (regional final of a pub league, so no great amounts of money at stake).

The first hand after "shuffle up and deal" had all nine players with pocket pairs - I have no reason to disbelieve the others who folded.

From the small blind the hands were: - 22, 33, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA.

Jacks & better all finished up all in pre-flop. Board came out 2d, 6d, 7h, 9d, 5d. None of the all in players held a diamond so the aces held up.

I limped with my 9's, and folded after raise, 3-bet, 4-bet.

How many people would be screaming "RIGGED!" if this was online.

Cheers all
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 07:22 PM
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 07:27 PM
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I know it sounds far fetched - I saw 5 of the pairs (my 9's and the 4 pairs that were tabled).

As I said, I believe the players that folded.

I know of at least 8 other people who believe the story

Cheers all
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 08:39 PM
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If the deal is indeed random, and you have no reason to suspect otherwise, anything can happen. There must be somebody that can give us the odds of all the players having a pocket pair pre flop. I would love to hear what the probabilities are for that to happen. Just goes to prove that if it can happen, it will happen eventually.
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Weee--Waise View Post
Seems a little far fetched
If you can describe a mathematic chance for a circumstance occuring, then by defitition it MIGHT occur.

Realistically though, in a self dealt bar league I think I would be much more prone to believe that this spread of hands was due to insufficient randomization in the shuffle...

Not necessarily "cheating", simply someone shuffling once or twice, being distracted, and forgetting to continue shuffling until random-ness is acheived (roughly 6 to 7 "riffle shuffles", depending upon which math model you tend to believe).
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cribrules View Post
From the small blind the hands were: - 22, 33, 88, 99, TT, JJ, QQ, KK, AA.

Jacks & better all finished up all in pre-flop. Board came out 2d, 6d, 7h, 9d, 5d. None of the all in players held a diamond so the aces held up.

I limped with my 9's, and folded after raise, 3-bet, 4-bet.

How many people would be screaming "RIGGED!" if this was online.

Cheers all
The J's getting all in pre is pretty bad.

Funny, if all hands stayed in the aces would have finished in 4th place.

Live poker is so rigged!! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFzIty7g4ao
 
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Sun Jul 31, 2011, 10:05 PM
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The J's getting all in pre is pretty bad.

Funny, if all hands stayed in the aces would have finished in 4th place.

Live poker is so rigged!! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFzIty7g4ao

LOL,I love that one Lang,could you see that happening in PSO? There would be a 40 page tin-foil hat thread ASAP.

I figured you were posting one of 2 hands so I'll do the other...


http://youtu.be/XunAlp2azhA


Now THAT would classify as a bad beat,lol.


And oh yeah...live poker is rigged.
 

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