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Quads - Mon Aug 01, 2011, 06:27 PM
Bill Curran's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,506
Does any one think I could have gotten the same result if he hadn't had a pair ?

PokerStars Game #65395426259: Tournament #416802142, $0.50+$0.05 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/08/01 18:08:10 ET
Table '416802142 4' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: spade69er (6076 in chips)
Seat 3: foxyman1976 (28014 in chips)
Seat 5: 3D ICEMAN (12605 in chips)
Seat 6: Bill Curran (11518 in chips)
Seat 8: blue_cat222 (15090 in chips)
Seat 9: helpme12385 (9197 in chips)
spade69er: posts the ante 50
foxyman1976: posts the ante 50
3D ICEMAN: posts the ante 50
Bill Curran: posts the ante 50
blue_cat222: posts the ante 50
helpme12385: posts the ante 50
3D ICEMAN: posts small blind 200
Bill Curran: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Bill Curran [As 9d]
blue_cat222: folds
helpme12385 said, "gg sed"
helpme12385: folds
spade69er: calls 400
foxyman1976: folds
3D ICEMAN: folds
Bill Curran: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 9s 9h]
Bill Curran: checks
spade69er: bets 400
Bill Curran: calls 400
*** TURN *** [9c 9s 9h] [Jc]
Bill Curran: checks
spade69er: bets 5226 and is all-in
Bill Curran: calls 5226
*** RIVER *** [9c 9s 9h Jc] [Tc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bill Curran: shows [As 9d] (four of a kind, Nines)
spade69er: shows [2s 2h] (a full house, Nines full of Deuces)
Bill Curran collected 12552 from pot
spade69er finished the tournament in 6th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 12552 | Rake 0
Board [9c 9s 9h Jc Tc]
Seat 1: spade69er showed [2s 2h] and lost with a full house, Nines full of Deuces
Seat 3: foxyman1976 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 3D ICEMAN (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Bill Curran (big blind) showed [As 9d] and won (12552) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 8: blue_cat222 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: helpme12385 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I paused for a while after he bet the flop.. Is there any way I could have got my chips in if he didn't have a hand ? i.e. AK or AQ etc

Mon Aug 01, 2011, 06:41 PM
roomik17's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 4,556
I think you got lucky bill, if he wasnt an idiot you would not get paid off like that.. any J 10 or any PP beats him, let alone your 9 I like how you played it though. Very nice hand
Mon Aug 01, 2011, 06:54 PM
PanickyPoker's Avatar
Since: Sep 2010
Posts: 3,168
I don't think he played it horribly. I don't think he played it great either, but anyway... It was a protection bet. Obviously not thought through, and probably pretty -EV, but there was a good reason there.

If he had two overcards, I know many players who would get that in, but typically not by means of calling it off. Your best bet would probably have been to induce a reraise somehow.
Mon Aug 01, 2011, 08:58 PM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,809
if he was going to push a small pkt pair, I'd have shoved on the flop if I were him. That way you wouldn't let anyone have a free card to draw at beating him.

It may or may not get you as much value in a game with experienced players, but a check on the flop against weaker ones (especially in the small $$ online tournies), I've found that it's better to check the flop and let the others bet, smooth call until the river, then raise the river (or bet the river if acting before the other players betting). If nobody in the hand hits a pair, then you're not getting any value anyway... but the longer you can keep people around to hit a pair for a full house... the better your chance of getting paid off.

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