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Correct play? - Thu Aug 11, 2011, 07:21 PM
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was wondering about this hand. I took my time at every point betting, but my opponent seemed to bet quite fast, tell??
 
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Thu Aug 11, 2011, 09:16 PM
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I wouldn't have pushed the river, I'd have just called. There are alot of hands out there that can beat you, any 4 or a set.

Honestly, I put them on a set of 3's... not K's.

The playing speed is only noteworthy if it's a pattern. Just because they're playing faster doesn't always mean they have a great hand. If hand after hand, you see a pattern, then that's different.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2011, 01:41 AM
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This is a cooler hand indeed, but it is one that you may have made worse than it had to be...consider:

The MOST EXPENSIVE hand in poker is a good, but 2nd best, hand; the better your 2nd best hand, the more expensive it will tend to be.

When you flop top 2 on a dry board (few draws), there is very little "worry" that you are behind. BUT...top 2 is NEVER the nut hand on the flop...ever. If you ARE behind here, it is to a set, and you are drawing to 4 outs at the most.

Because of this fact, top 2 is not really a viable "slow play" hand, except against the most rabidly aggressive players, especially those who will feel "married" to a single pair hand.

Were it me, I would have gone for the C/R on the turn (at the latest), to at least give me the option of seeing how much my villain likes his hand. I want the last street still to come when I trigger my delayed value bet jsut in case I AM facing a set...I'd still have the river to improve.

Also, a C/R on the turn here would have possibly signalled to a set that you might have made a straight (although that is far fetched), and possibly saved you a little bit on the river. At the very least, you would have seen 2 lead bets by the villain, and at least a CALL of a C/R...had you THAT info, would you still have jammed your stack in on the river with top 2?

Don't get me wrong, I am NOT saying you are not going to lose some chips here; your hand is just too strong to avoid that. But if you try extracting your value EARLIER, you may have the additional signal you need to avoid losing the maximum. Since the money you do not lose is precisely equal to the amount of money you win (since both amounts are still in your pocket), sometimes acting in a manner which makes your losses less damaging is all you can really do.

While I cannot say that given the info you had here makes risking your entire stack "wrong", I do think you might have made some earlier actions that could have SAVED you from feeling confident enough to stack off on the river.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2011, 07:07 AM
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ok, thanks for the feedback.
really helpful
thanks!
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2011, 11:41 AM
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@ JKW I would like to add that I know this player well, and my read on him was AQ. this guy would never play a small pair like that, he would most likely fold and if he elected to play from first position he'd limp and see the action first.
 
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Fri Aug 12, 2011, 01:04 PM
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@ JKW I would like to add that I know this player well, and my read on him was AQ. this guy would neverplay a small pair like that, he would most likely fold and if he elected to play from first position he'd limp and see the action first.
oops there's that word again....lol
 

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