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13 outs against TT - Fri Aug 12, 2011, 02:45 PM
77wopke77's Avatar
Since: Aug 2010
Posts: 482
13 outs!! is this the right play?????

PokerStarsspel #65912988359: Toernooi #409688000, Freeroll Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (125/250) - 12/08/2011 20:25:28 CET [12/08/2011 14:25:28 ET]
Tafel '409688000 76' 9-max Plaats #9 is de button
Plaats 1: dutchdavid1 (365 in chips) is sitting out
Plaats 2: FerryNiceAA (5705 in chips)
Plaats 3: JintarmLubu (2723 in chips) is sitting out
Plaats 4: 77wopke77 (7775 in chips)
Plaats 5: callisto46 (15365 in chips)
Plaats 6: Schaepie (2715 in chips)
Plaats 7: vissersmaat (25307 in chips)
Plaats 8: IndianBlues (2735 in chips)
Plaats 9: MenzoX (10900 in chips) is sitting out
dutchdavid1: zet de ante 25
FerryNiceAA: zet de ante 25
JintarmLubu: zet de ante 25
77wopke77: zet de ante 25
callisto46: zet de ante 25
Schaepie: zet de ante 25
vissersmaat: zet de ante 25
IndianBlues: zet de ante 25
MenzoX: zet de ante 25
dutchdavid1: zet small blind 125
FerryNiceAA: zet big blind 250
Gedeeld aan 77wopke77 [2c Ac]
JintarmLubu: foldt
77wopke77: callt 250
callisto46: callt 250
Schaepie: foldt
vissersmaat: foldt
MenzoX is terug
IndianBlues: foldt
MenzoX: raiset 750 naar 1000
dutchdavid1: foldt
FerryNiceAA: foldt
77wopke77: callt 750
callisto46: callt 750
*** FLOP *** [3d 9c Jc]
77wopke77: checkt
callisto46: checkt
MenzoX: bet 1000
77wopke77: callt 1000
callisto46: foldt
*** TURN *** [3d 9c Jc] [4d]
77wopke77: bet 1750
MenzoX: raiset 7125 naar 8875 en is all-in
77wopke77: callt 4000 en is all-in
De niet-gecallde bet (3125) is geretourneerd aan MenzoX
*** RIVER *** [3d 9c Jc 4d] [2h]
*** SHOWDOWN ***
77wopke77: toont [2c Ac] (een pair Tweeën)
MenzoX: toont [Td Tc] (een pair Tienen)
MenzoX won 17100 van pot
77wopke77 is op de 386e plaats in het toernooi geëindigd
Totale pot 17100 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9c Jc 4d 2h]
Plaats 1: dutchdavid1 (small blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 2: FerryNiceAA (big blind) foldde voor de Flop
Plaats 3: JintarmLubu foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 4: 77wopke77 toonde [2c Ac] en verloor met een pair Tweeën
Plaats 5: callisto46 foldde op de Flop
Plaats 6: Schaepie foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 7: vissersmaat foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 8: IndianBlues foldde voor de Flop (bette niet)
Plaats 9: MenzoX (button) toonde [Td Tc] en won (17100) met een pair Tienen
Fri Aug 12, 2011, 03:04 PM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,841
when the opp shoves the turn, you have to figure they have a J or pkt pair, or at least I would. If they have trips, then you have 7 outs (two of the clubs are compromised due to them hitting a full house)... if they have a pkt pair that didn't hit trips, then you have 14-15 outs (you probably counted the 5 of clubs twice, i'm guessing).

With 7 outs, you will only win approx 14% of the time (against their exact cards, you're at 31%).

To call their push, you need to put 36% into the pot, but will only win between 14-31% of the time.

If you're only going by the math of the pot, then it's a muck to the shove (plus you'll still have 16BB left). If you've got a read on your opponent that says that they will bluff by shoving, then you could make a case for calling it.

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