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Do US players still play? - Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:17 PM
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Do ye US players still play poker online? because from what i heard ye can still play at CERTAIN sites. If ye do what sites do ye play on?

(I also heard Full Tilt has shut down.... what's up with that?)
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:23 PM
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I do but cant tell you where
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:27 PM
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OK, i'll ask Patrick then
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:29 PM
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we get into trouble if we talk about other sites
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:31 PM
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oh for real? the mods will probably delete this thread than..
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:48 PM
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For myself I've dabbled at a couple sites,trying to freeroll it but haven't really been very earnest in my efforts as the sites just quite simple don't offer what I'm looking for. Also after what happened to US players via our governments Puritanical interference here I'm not looking to break a lot of rock working at this somewhere else to find the rug suddenly yanked out on us there and having the extra bonus of not getting any monies won and/or deposited back. Keep in mind that as of now Stars is the only one of the "Big 3" that HAS paid it's US players their monies. Furthermore the prospects of the other 2 ever making good on their obligations look dicey at best. That's a big part of the upheaval and uncertainty surrounding FT right now I would think.

For me Stars was unique to all the other sites in what they offered insofar as volume and game selection. You can reasonably (provided you work at it and keep improving...) start from $0 here and grind your way to a starting bank,hit the mini-micros and grind from there to the next level and so on and so forth. The sheer number of players and games make multi-tabling (something I think is essential for BR advancement at the lowest micro levels) pretty much any SNG/Turbo format a viable option here. The sites I've tried and/or looked at simply do not have anywhere near the volume of players or the selection of games that Stars has. Not even FT was comparable to Stars in this respect and they were far and away the next best offering that I ever saw myself.

My main hope is that we're back on here before long. If that doesn't happen I hope any US site looks at Stars and uses them as a template of sorts. But I'm for sure hoping we get back on here. I would gladly pay any taxes and/or fees to play here again,and I'm sure that the current players from around the world would like to see the site become more stringently regulated (ANY site operating in the US market will be highly regulated I believe...) so as to chase off the cheats and multi-accounters.

My main focus poker-wise since Black Friday has been studying/learning and playing live. I've been doing the B&M casino thing a fair bit with pretty solid results so far. Mainly tournament play as live,much like on-line,I seem to be a much more solid tourney player as opposed to my success (or lack thereof...) at the cash tables.

I think for myself it really came down to Stars offered what I was looking for (once I doped out a plan for moving along in my head,that took a while to formulate) and at the end of the day, and most importantly, I ENJOYED playing here.Before we got the boot Stars was the first site I logged onto each day and the last site I was on when I logged of at night. That's kind of telling. The other sites I have tried I can't really say the same and if I'm not having fun with it I don't see the point.
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:52 PM
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we get into trouble if we talk about other sites

Well you can trash other sites here but sure as Hell you can't promote them...
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:55 PM
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Well you can trash other sites here but sure as Hell you can't promote them...
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:59 PM
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Yeah the volume at my new site is hard... its getting better but still slow. I played a 2-7 lowball tournet today that had 1 hour late registration I signed up 30 minutes into it and I was the 7th person entered lol

Also most of the tourneys like 95% are rebuy addons which I hate.. one good thing though is you can find some soft games.. if it were not for tilt I would have around $400 lol now sit at 60.. for the 4th time

I have noticed now some of the big time grinders are finding there way over now thoughm and a lot are starting back in the micros.. A few have told me they deposited $25 and will just try to run it up
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 07:59 PM
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Well you can trash other sites here but sure as Hell you can't promote them...
yeah you are right,,,I hate carbon soooo much
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 08:05 PM
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yeah you are right,,,I hate carbon soooo much
ROTFLMFAO roomik you just to cool dude

always the best to you my friend

 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 08:09 PM
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 08:17 PM
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Yeah the volume at my new site is hard... its getting better but still slow. I played a 2-7 lowball tournet today that had 1 hour late registration I signed up 30 minutes into it and I was the 7th person entered lol

Also most of the tourneys like 95% are rebuy addons which I hate.. one good thing though is you can find some soft games.. if it were not for tilt I would have around $400 lol now sit at 60.. for the 4th time

I have noticed now some of the big time grinders are finding there way over now thoughm and a lot are starting back in the micros.. A few have told me they deposited $25 and will just try to run it up

EVERYTHING on these sites (I'm pretty sure we're talking about the same ones...) seems to be some type of "gimmick" game---rebuy/add-ons;all-or-nothings-;all-in every hand tourneys (someone should let tencat know about that one--he would own that game),or some other dopey structure. Stars has them to yeah,but here they're the exception and not the rule.

That and I still think that before all this shakes out the government is going to use the same banking statutes that they went after Stars and the rest with to pull the plug on US participation on those sites as well.

For me I grew to love playing on-line in the year that I was here--but it was playing HERE that I loved. Even FT,which I think would be universally accepted as the closest thing to Stars in the industry,was a red-headed stepchild in comparison for SNG/MTT game selection and that was my focus so I barely ever loaded up their site. And they far out-stripped what's currently available to us. So for me as of this point it's thanks,but no thanks.

Oh well my golf game is the best it's been in a couple years and football is starting. If Maryland would just license a FULL casino instead of this slot-palace BS that would severely cushion the blow.
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 08:19 PM
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yeah you are right,,,I hate carbon soooo much

LOL,ya they should change their name to "Zirconium".
 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011, 08:51 PM
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Maryland do something proactive when it comes to casinos...? Well, we can keep dreaming.

As for myself, not playing at the others sites. Instead, I'm moving my azz to OC, MD which is a very short trip to DE and NJ casinos. And 5 minutes from a slot palace. Score one for me.
 
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Wed Aug 17, 2011, 12:53 AM
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Even if the Federal government were to allow gaming online, there are several states, including Maryland, that have outlawed online gaming. Even if there was an overseas site that accepted Americans, players residing in those state would still be barred. (This means you, Moxie.)


As to the old hedgehog, I'm sticking here. Sure the games are play money, but I am learning how to play. I'm in the 27-player SNG games. ($300 + $20) So far, I've completed 43 orbits since Black Friday. That's 860 games. I'm ahead by more than $200K in play chips.


I did follow Cowboy to another site. Huge disappointment. Very difficult to navigate. Most of the games, including the freerolls, have a rebuy / add-on feature. Won a few tickets to other games, but then can never find them. The site refuses to offer any assistance. Several of their better players and promoters have told me "any ticket you win is worthless. Use 'em to wipe your a$$."


My feeling is that online gaming will not happen until the online sites are included in SubSection 32 of the Money Laundrying Law. (Think I'm quoting the right law.) The basic provisions requires all financial institutions to report money transactions that exceed certain limits. The law sets the maximum, while those institutes covered by the law can establish lower criteria. As defined by this law, casinos and card rooms are considered financial institutions.


Then comes taxation. I'm not sure what the form is, but I'm thinking the online sites will have to facilitate the submission of tax forms to both the state and federal governments for winnings over certain limits as established by the IRS.
 
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Wed Aug 17, 2011, 01:37 AM
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If Maryland has ever instituted a law specifically outlawing on-line gaming I've never heard of it. Nor can I find any such law by searching for it.

And any states current position,yea,nay or non-committal,as to on-line poker is likely to change if and when the Feds OK it. So moot point really.

But thanks for the wet blanket all the same.
 
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Wed Aug 17, 2011, 02:08 AM
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THE ONLY STATE THAT HAS AN ONLINE GAMING LAW IS WASHINGTON



 
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Wed Aug 17, 2011, 02:32 AM
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Yeah like October of last year I think. I remember when GQPublic got the boot off the site (as far as cash play goes). Good guy GQ,here's hoping when the Feds relent his state will follow suit.

I don't know where Cairn came up with that info on my state. I'm on 2 overseas sites now (I don't like them particularly,but I AM on them...) and nothing about my state ever stopped Stars from letting me play as they did Washington residents when the axe fell there last year. Stands to reason if my state barred it Stars would have blocked myself and all other MD residents from playing,just as they did with Washingtonians.

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Wed Aug 17, 2011, 02:42 AM
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YEP



 

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