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Open League Leader disqualified? - Tue Aug 30, 2011, 07:50 PM
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I just noticed that the overnight Open league leader (a Belgian played called "kerenk") has had his name removed from the standings and his scores wiped.

Any thoughts? Is disqualification the only likely explanation?
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2011, 08:00 PM
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multi accounting?
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2011, 08:25 PM
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Well that would have been my first thought roomik.

What I dont get is that he only hit the top spot within the last 48 hours. And the league still has a day to go so he isnt even guaranteed to finish top. Yet he has already had his name removed from the leaderboard and (presumeably) had his Stars account frozen/terminated. That seems to be very quick.
 
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Tue Aug 30, 2011, 11:26 PM
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Well that would have been my first thought roomik.

What I dont get is that he only hit the top spot within the last 48 hours. And the league still has a day to go so he isnt even guaranteed to finish top. Yet he has already had his name removed from the leaderboard and (presumeably) had his Stars account frozen/terminated. That seems to be very quick.

Probably been investigated in the last 2-3 weeks and a course of action taken against them
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 04:53 AM
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It doesn't have to be League related. That happens when PS frozes an account for any reason. The suspension is reflected on the PSO profile too. They usually do it whille investigating, so this doesn't prove anything , unless it stays frozen for good.
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 06:27 AM
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He is not getting 1500$ i spoke to his dad, brother of JjesterSharKs dad, he claims he entered his sons, kerenk, account and played it and had an argument with kerenk and decided to tell pokerstars he played his sons account and that son kerenk dont deserve the winnings. JjesterSharK family u rule LOL
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 07:43 AM
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He is not getting 1500$ i spoke to his dad, brother of JjesterSharKs dad, he claims he entered his sons, kerenk, account and played it and had an argument with kerenk and decided to tell pokerstars he played his sons account and that son kerenk dont deserve the winnings. JjesterSharK family u rule LOL

LOL KO you crack me up mate
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 08:39 AM
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Looks like you all have it down pat again..lol, I'm staying out of this 1 until the word is final from PSO, PS ...whoever.....lol

nevcer saw the guy before now, nor probably never will now....lol



btw just to distract you, there's cheap sattys for $33 wcoop sat where 100 seats GTD for the WCOOP.

Last edited by Stakehorse75; Wed Aug 31, 2011 at 08:41 AM.. Reason: btw..
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 09:54 AM
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LOL KO you crack me up mate
mcgameboy well done in the open league gr8 result keep up the good work at the tables
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 11:16 AM
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Due to recent changes in the licensing, we are currently reviewing the services we are able to offer our players in Belgium.

This meant that from the 1st August 2011, it became necessary for us to discontinue all promotion offers to Belgian players. This includes the Skill league promotion and any quiz prizes.

There was a technical glitch with the leaderboard that allowed that player to be included. We have now corrected that glitch.


Good Luck
PSO STAFF
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Due to recent changes in the licensing, we are currently reviewing the services we are able to offer our players in Belgium.

This meant that from the 1st August 2011, it became necessary for us to discontinue all promotion offers to Belgian players. This includes the Skill league promotion and any quiz prizes.

There was a technical glitch with the leaderboard that allowed that player to be included. We have now corrected that glitch.
If I understand it correctly, you are trying to force the Belgian players to play at Pokerstars.be rather than at Pokerstars.com.
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 12:19 PM
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If I understand it correctly, you are trying to force the Belgian players to play at Pokerstars.be rather than at Pokerstars.com.

Don't think it's PokerStar trying to force but rather Belgium forcing PokerStars
Just like France, Italy and others
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 12:48 PM
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Don't think it's PokerStar trying to force but rather Belgium forcing PokerStars
Just like France, Italy and others
The Belgian state does not hold any leverage to force pokerstars to do this. They can not ban Pokerstars from the Belgian market in anyway, they tried that already and failed.
So why is Pokerstars playing along then?
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 01:43 PM
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Due to recent changes in the licensing, we are currently reviewing the services we are able to offer our players in Belgium.

This meant that from the 1st August 2011, it became necessary for us to discontinue all promotion offers to Belgian players. This includes the Skill league promotion and any quiz prizes.

There was a technical glitch with the leaderboard that allowed that player to be included. We have now corrected that glitch.

Then to be perfectly frank, it is far from good enough to be waiting until the penultimate day of the month to "spot" and "correct" this "glitch". Kerenk has put a lot of hours in and has deserved his/her spot at the top. To suddenly decide that he/she is no longer eligible a mere 48 hours before the end of the league is incredibly poor form. If I was in kerenk's shoes, I would be absolutely furious at being MISLED in this way. I feel really bad for the guy. Either you are eligible or you are INeligible. If you are INeligible for the Skill League promotion, then you should not be able to register for the Skill League tournaments. Maybe PokerStars should at least TRY to keep its players in the loop so that players know "where they are at" before they participate in any promotion, instead of operating this "dont deal with it now, deal with it later" policy. Or is that too much to ask? What's next for kerenk? Are you going to take his Platinum VIP status off him AFTER he has spent money acquiring the VPPs he needed to get that status?

And one last question, IF he is ineligible for this promotion due to his nationality, then why is he playing in the Open League tournament that started at 1300ET?

Looks like that "glitch" has not been fully corrected
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 01:50 PM
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And one last question, IF he is ineligible for this promotion due to his nationality, then why is he playing in the Open League tournament that started at 1300ET?
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Is that even legal? It seems like discrimination to me.
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 03:34 PM
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Is that even legal? It seems like discrimination to me.
I would not call it discrimination Crumblepie. As Sandtrap has correctly pointed out in an earlier post, PokerStars have separate licences (and therefore sites) for France and Italy, presumably called pokerstars.fr and pokerstars.it. It may well be the case that Belgium is following suit, presumably with a site called pokerstars.be. That doesnt appear to be illegal or discriminatory, they are most likely complying with Belgian gambling laws in such a way that they dont "completely wipe Belgian players off the map".
 
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Wed Aug 31, 2011, 04:27 PM
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I would not call it discrimination Crumblepie. As Sandtrap has correctly pointed out in an earlier post, PokerStars have separate licences (and therefore sites) for France and Italy, presumably called pokerstars.fr and pokerstars.it. It may well be the case that Belgium is following suit, presumably with a site called pokerstars.be. That doesnt appear to be illegal or discriminatory, they are most likely complying with Belgian gambling laws in such a way that they dont "completely wipe Belgian players off the map".
Yes, I probably overreacted there.

Anyway, I am playing at Pokerstars.com instead of Pokerstars.be. There is nothing illegal in doing so and the only difference that I know of, is that this way the Belgian state does not know that I play online poker, and I cannot think of any sane reason of why they should need to know.

if you open an acoount at Pokserstars.be you are required to register yourself in a state casino in Wallonia before you get to play any poker. It sounds pretty crazy to me to expect me to register myself at the state so that I can play online poker.
Furthermore, that casino is some 250 km away from my home, that is a 500 km trip to be able to play some online poker? The gas it takes to drive there is five times my BR. :lol:

All this when you can play at pokerstars.com without all the haslle and state interference.

Oh, yes, and apparantly I cannot play the PSO leaque.
 

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