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Deep Stack strategy? - Tue Sep 06, 2011, 11:29 AM
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AKs in late position facing 3bet from BB effective stack 250bb+

Is just a call? 4bet? shove?
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 12:26 PM
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Do you expect a simple answer with the best decision to be taken ? Bad news, there isn't one.

It depends on a lot of factors, like the 3bet%, fold to steal% of the guy in the BB, him being able to play the opponent not the cards and if so your steal%, him being TAG, LAG, donk, your image at the table, the number of hands that you're basing your stats on, instinct, etc.
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 12:37 PM
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It really depends on table dynamics
Is the BB loose/tight/passive ?
What 2 cards have you seen that they have played ?
How big is their stack ? Can you you bet him off the hand ?
If you call the pre flop raise and miss , its an easy fold if they have a PP and trip up and bet first
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 12:42 PM
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Way too villain dependant to give you any descent answer, but I'm never or very close to never shoving AK, suited or no, 250 deep.
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 12:49 PM
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What they said.

The only thing that's certain is, it will almost always be a spew to stack off AK pre 250bb's deep, only going to be profitable against a select group of really bad spewtard villains.
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 12:55 PM
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ty for all answers I do realise every hand is situation dependent I was just trying to get a general idea. keep them coming. ty.
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
What they said.

The only thing that's certain is, it will almost always be a spew to stack off AK pre 250bb's deep, only going to be profitable against a select group of really bad spewtard villains.
thanks for not using my name specifically Dave....
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by TheLangolier View Post
What they said.

The only thing that's certain is, it will almost always be a spew to stack off AK pre 250bb's deep, only going to be profitable against a select group of really bad spewtard villains.
I can't wait for JDean's response
Hope your sitting comfortably
 
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Tue Sep 06, 2011, 01:19 PM
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I can't wait for JDean's response
Hope your sitting comfortably

I was trying to save JD time by posting the cliff notes version. ;P
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2011, 04:47 AM
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at this stage in my poker game play, i would call almolst 100% of the time in this situation, and focus on post flop play.

if i 4 bet and he pushes i got myself into a sit. i dont wanna be in (vomit) which is

going all in w/ ak pre 250 bb deep

the only exception is if villain is always doing this ..esp. w/ a and k rags, etc, . and im prob ahead, then ill take all his chips, sure. id love to play that hand if im crushing him most times, its a coin flip the remaining 20-30%, and I loose only 20% bad luck/suckout. Those odds i feel comfortable w/.

the way i see it is even flat calling, on a 3 bet, shows a lot of strength too. if villain 3 bet to steal and i call, i think he would be smart to be very careful post flop, and hate any continued aggression from me.

i guess thats pretty basic, but thats where im at now.

Last edited by johannfl; Fri Sep 09, 2011 at 05:21 AM..
 
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Fri Sep 09, 2011, 04:58 AM
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I was trying to save JD time by posting the cliff notes version. ;P

LMFAO

Dale

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