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Just playin' around - Thu Sep 22, 2011, 05:48 PM
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I know it's only play money, and I don't even know if support would review this because it is play money. But how funny would it be if these two Italians play for real money together, and were practicing their (terrible) chip dumping skills here.

PokerStars Game #67899620021: Tournament #444980328, 80000+1000 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2011/09/22 16:06:28 ET
Table '444980328 3' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 2: !!!111Dan (3143 in chips)
Seat 3: Sutts I (2490 in chips)
Seat 4: gabinexa (2790 in chips)
Seat 5: jeringazo (4920 in chips)
Seat 6: antonio65155 (4250 in chips)
Seat 7: Miketeac (3025 in chips)
Seat 9: turish (3442 in chips)
antonio65155: posts small blind 50
Miketeac: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to !!!111Dan [Kd Th]
turish: folds
!!!111Dan: folds
Sutts I: folds
gabinexa: folds
jeringazo: folds
antonio65155: calls 50
Miketeac: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 8c Jh]
antonio65155: checks
Miketeac: bets 300
antonio65155: raises 600 to 900
Miketeac: raises 2025 to 2925 and is all-in
antonio65155: calls 2025
*** TURN *** [Js 8c Jh] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Js 8c Jh 5c] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
antonio65155: shows [Qc Jd] (three of a kind, Jacks)
Miketeac: shows [3s 9d] (a pair of Jacks)
antonio65155 collected 6050 from pot
Miketeac finished the tournament in 15th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6050 | Rake 0
Board [Js 8c Jh 5c Ah]
Seat 2: !!!111Dan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Sutts I folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gabinexa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jeringazo (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: antonio65155 (small blind) showed [Qc Jd] and won (6050) with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 7: Miketeac (big blind) showed [3s 9d] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 9: turish folded before Flop (didn't bet)
dan says "wtf"

I've been trying to see how I can do at play money sng's in building the roll. After a bunch of 10k games, I made it to 500k. So I went to 25k, but they only have 9 mans at that level and after winning my first, I decided to go to 50k, just because I like the 27 mans better. Plus the payout makes it much more worthwhile (remembering it's only play money ) to play the 50k ones when you have this amount.
I finished 2nd in my first 50k game. Then w/ over 800k, I went to play one today, but there was nobody playing them. So I jumped into this 80k that the hand above is from. Poor br mgmt, but like I said, it was the only game going on.

Here's the last hand.
PokerStars Game #67903149403: Tournament #444980328, 80000+1000 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2011/09/22 17:09:39 ET
Table '444980328 3' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: !!!111Dan (35635 in chips)
Seat 3: Big_Homie2.0 (4865 in chips)
!!!111Dan: posts the ante 50
Big_Homie2.0: posts the ante 50
!!!111Dan: posts small blind 400
Big_Homie2.0: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to !!!111Dan [As 8d]
!!!111Dan: raises 3600 to 4400 *thought I raised enough to put him all in here* ..meh
Big_Homie2.0: raises 415 to 4815 and is all-in
!!!111Dan: calls 415
*** FLOP *** [8c 7d 2s]
!!!111Dan said, "gl"
*** TURN *** [8c 7d 2s] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [8c 7d 2s Qd] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Big_Homie2.0: shows [9s 8h] (a pair of Eights)
!!!111Dan: shows [As 8d] (a pair of Eights - Ace kicker)
!!!111Dan collected 9730 from pot
Big_Homie2.0 finished the tournament in 2nd place and received 583200.00.
!!!111Dan wins the tournament and receives 799200.00 - congratulations!
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9730 | Rake 0
Board [8c 7d 2s Qd Td]
Seat 2: !!!111Dan (button) (small blind) showed [As 8d] and won (9730) with a pair of Eights
Seat 3: Big_Homie2.0 (big blind) showed [9s 8h] and lost with a pair of Eights

Woo hoo..just passed the million mark.
Must say, I was disappointed to learn this week that they cap you at 20 million play chips. What do you do if you beat the game? Can I exchange it at Game-Stop?
 
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And play money is rigged to.............. - Thu Sep 22, 2011, 06:44 PM
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PokerStars Game #67906919725: Tournament #445055474, 300+20 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/09/22 18:25:15 ET
Table '445055474 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Elnora65 (10665 in chips)
Seat 3: Moxie Pip (910 in chips)
Seat 4: PeriquitoVer (465 in chips)
Seat 8: fabregaswang (1720 in chips)
Seat 9: koronel (1240 in chips)
Moxie Pip: posts small blind 15
PeriquitoVer: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Moxie Pip [7s Qs]
fabregaswang: folds
koronel: calls 30
Nerko77 is connected
Elnora65: calls 30
Moxie Pip: calls 15
PeriquitoVer: checks
*** FLOP *** [Js As 3s]
Moxie Pip: checks
PeriquitoVer: bets 130
koronel: folds
Elnora65: calls 130
Moxie Pip: raises 750 to 880 and is all-in
PeriquitoVer: calls 305 and is all-in
Elnora65: calls 750
*** TURN *** [Js As 3s] [Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Js As 3s Ac] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Moxie Pip: shows [7s Qs] (a flush, Ace high)
Elnora65: shows [6s 6h] (a full house, Aces full of Sixes)
Elnora65 collected 890 from side pot
PeriquitoVer: shows [8s 3c] (a full house, Aces full of Threes)
Elnora65 collected 1425 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2315 Main pot 1425. Side pot 890. | Rake 0
Board [Js As 3s Ac Ah]
Seat 2: Elnora65 (button) showed [6s 6h] and won (2315) with a full house, Aces full of Sixes
Seat 3: Moxie Pip (small blind) showed [7s Qs] and lost with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: PeriquitoVer (big blind) showed [8s 3c] and lost with a full house, Aces full of Threes
Seat 8: fabregaswang folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: koronel folded on the Flop


All-in on a 7J2 then J turn board in another one with the table ATC idiot holding AQs to his A5o and he binks the 5. LOL gotta love it.

About 5 hands before this the pinhead with the 6's was calling and 2 other players (whom I railed a couple hands later...) were calling me gay for my bet sizing as I had my slider options on 2.25,2.7 and 4x. They thought I was actually typing it in,lol.


PS,

You can only load 3 play money tables at a time???!!! WTF???!!!

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Thu Sep 22, 2011, 10:33 PM
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Know what you're talking about. Been playing the 27-player $300+$20 games since Black Friday. If nothing else, I'm learning about maniacs. Should be good training for when I get back to real money games.

Just curious about your record. Mine, as of tonight: (full 20-game orbits only)

1,020 games (51 orbits)

61 ---- First place
81 ---- Second place
85 ---- Third place
73 ---- Fourth place
80 ---- Fifth place

Losers = 640 games
37.3% = ITM percentage

Net gain = $268,464 in play money

I'm sure there are a lot of players out there that do better. Wish I could remember the guy's handle, but he claimed he finished first in 250 consecutive games. Considering the way he played, I think he might be moving the decimal a few places. Guy went all-in every hand and had the devil's luck. He eliminated 18 players in my game, never had a hole card above a ten, yet he ended with a straight, a flush, or the full house every hand whenever somebody called him.

He eliminated me when I got pocket jacks. He had 6-2 off suit. I caught a third jack on the flop, and he needed any four for a straight. River gave him the straight.
 
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Thu Sep 22, 2011, 11:35 PM
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Did you record these Cairn, or are the stats available in Stars? Never thought about logging anything.
 
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Thu Sep 22, 2011, 11:55 PM
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Sad to say, the only stats I kept are the results of each orbit. There didn't seem to be much interest in maintaining the group one and two histories since this is play money, and everyone I ever mention my history to lets me know how big a fool I am for even tracking the results of these games.

I did these games like the Battle of the Planets, even down to the point totals. My scores ran from a low of 96 points to a high of 536 points. Just finished my 52nd orbit. Came out a winner on that one. (2 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 for a total of 412 points) Of my 52 orbits, I have lost money on just five of them.

My curiousity had me convert my scores into cash, based on the $1.00 + 0.50, 27-player games. My bankroll would be $1,062.19 richer. Of course I would anticipate a major dropoff in revenues if I were playing for cash. As everyone keeps telling me, making play money is a joke.

Sorry to say I'm not laughing. I figure this is a great way to maintain my poker skills.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 01:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cairn Destop View Post
Know what you're talking about. Been playing the 27-player $300+$20 games since Black Friday. If nothing else, I'm learning about maniacs. Should be good training for when I get back to real money games.

Just curious about your record. Mine, as of tonight: (full 20-game orbits only)

1,020 games (51 orbits)

61 ---- First place
81 ---- Second place
85 ---- Third place
73 ---- Fourth place
80 ---- Fifth place

Losers = 640 games
37.3% = ITM percentage

Net gain = $268,464 in play money

I'm sure there are a lot of players out there that do better. Wish I could remember the guy's handle, but he claimed he finished first in 250 consecutive games. Considering the way he played, I think he might be moving the decimal a few places. Guy went all-in every hand and had the devil's luck. He eliminated 18 players in my game, never had a hole card above a ten, yet he ended with a straight, a flush, or the full house every hand whenever somebody called him.

He eliminated me when I got pocket jacks. He had 6-2 off suit. I caught a third jack on the flop, and he needed any four for a straight. River gave him the straight.

Yeah but there ain't enough luck in the world to finish first 250 consecutive times. Hell I would give you shorter odds on the toss of a coin landing the same way 10,000 straight times,maybe more.


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Sad to say, the only stats I kept are the results of each orbit. There didn't seem to be much interest in maintaining the group one and two histories since this is play money, and everyone I ever mention my history to lets me know how big a fool I am for even tracking the results of these games.

I did these games like the Battle of the Planets, even down to the point totals. My scores ran from a low of 96 points to a high of 536 points. Just finished my 52nd orbit. Came out a winner on that one. (2 - 3 - 1 - 1 - 1 for a total of 412 points) Of my 52 orbits, I have lost money on just five of them.

My curiousity had me convert my scores into cash, based on the $1.00 + 0.50, 27-player games. My bankroll would be $1,062.19 richer. Of course I would anticipate a major dropoff in revenues if I were playing for cash. As everyone keeps telling me, making play money is a joke.

Sorry to say I'm not laughing. I figure this is a great way to maintain my poker skills.

Thinking that yeah you're results may flatten out a little IF you took the same lines to even mini-micro cash levels that you do in play money. But if you realize the difference (pretty sure you would hedgehog...) and adjust accordingly maybe you could keep it close to the same.

+1 on at least maintaining some semblance of your skills. Yeah it IS play money at the end of the day,and unlike the Home Games there aren't typically many players even making an effort,BUT....

just seeing the hands play out (especially if you're seeing a fairly good size number) and seeing the board textures,making reads...these things you can continue to hone in play money. Bet sizing and such things not so much typically as it IS play money after all. But the "feel" part of the game can surely be kept somewhat sharp.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 10:50 AM
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Before Black Friday, my ambition was to play one orbit in the Mercury Division of the Battle of the Planets promotion. At that time, I needed $24 for an orbit of twenty games. Today, the cost of a Mercury orbit is $30. (Repeat after me --- there is no such thing as inflation.) I figured it would take me five or six months getting the money. Never got to do it. (Deep sigh)


As you said, my game would have to change. Some differences would be not having to worry about so many crazies. Seems like the first five hands have players going all-in, usually three, or more, per hand. I'll look at the cards using the replay button. Always fascinates me the range of hands that call the pre flop all-in, and the hand winning. Maybe half the hands are won by second-best, or idiotic players like the guy who eliminated me with 6 - 2 off suit.

For those interested, I'm finding the first round, (ten minutes), will eliminate one table. The next three rounds, (thirty minutes) will get you to the final nine. You will make it to the money by the 75 minute mark, and the game will end around the two hour point. My guess is that the real money game will run half as much longer since there are fewer crazies. Would love knowing if my estimate is accurate.

Another anticipated difference is that nobody is going to sit out the game. In many cases, if the maniac player goes over $9K by the time it gets to two tables, or is over $6K at the final table, they sit out the remainder of the game. They are guaranteed the money, so they move on, unwilling to play for first. I'm certain the real cash player sees an incentive in coming in first versus fifth.

I do try reading my opponents, but the incentive to push the envelope with marginal hands in play money makes that difficult. Players I see as tight near the money are the same players who pushed speculative hands early. Chasers catch, though that could be perspective. Admit it, you'll remember players who chased the inside straight, or hit the runner-runner, but you tend to forget when these same type missed.

Proper bet sizing is definitely one of my biggest problems. Far too often I'll make what I think is a "come hither" bet of the blind, or double the blind, and walk away with a minimum gain. Other times, I'll make a "don't you dare mess with me" bet of five or six times the blind and get called by the hot maniac who is holding squat. Most times I win those - most times. Learning how much to wager to cut down the number of callers without chasing everyone out is difficult for me. It's why I'm still playing these games.

Didn't know anyone here even had home games that were strictly play money. Should have figured somebody would have organized such an event.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 12:47 PM
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Cairn, MeowSasKitty has regular Home Games for play money.

She plays a lot of bounty games with a nice bounty on her head.

I would play these more often, but they run a little late for me as they are aimed primarily at the American and Canadian players.

Also the Drunk Tank run some play money Home Games.

 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 03:06 PM
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Effsea's Drunk Tank games are easily as good (Hell better...) than anything you'll see real money SNG play at $1.00 or less.

I've only tried Kitty's Penthouse a couple of times but those games were plenty solid as well. Far better than any standard play money games that you would normally play.


As to the running time of the play money SNG's vs. real money if the 2 hour mark you were mentioning was for 45 mans then I would say that in my experience real money 45 man's at the level I played (the .25's ) typically took roughly 2 and 1/2 hours to play out,sometimes a little more sometimes a little less.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 05:49 PM
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Yeah hedgey, join us in the tank. Lots of fun!! they start a little late for me during the week but I try to get in on the weekends when I can. Some pretty solid players and play. PM eff for the info if you're interested
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 05:54 PM
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