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three os a kind question!!!! - Fri Sep 23, 2011, 02:41 AM
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Hey guys I'm new. I;m taking the courses. i have a little question. Does a set win over a strip?
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 02:49 AM
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whats a strip? you mean a street?

its explained in one of the first articles
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 09:02 AM
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I'm guessing it's a set over trips, so the correct answer would be that the full house wins.

(In order for someone to have trips the board must be paired. But that gives the person with a pair in hand and a third card on board a full house).
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 09:12 AM
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hand strengths are as follows, hi card, pair, two pair, 3 of a kind, straight, flush, full house, 4 of a kind, straight flush, royal flush
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 10:17 AM
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Hey guys I'm new. I;m taking the courses. i have a little question. Does a set win over a strip?

I'm thinking you mean a set or trips. As I remember, they are both three of a kind. The difference is how you got them. If you have a pocket pair, and a third card comes on the board, you have a set. If you have one card, and the board shows two, you have trips.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 10:46 AM
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yeah but like dreamer said, if you have a set, and somebody else has trips on the same board, you have a full house.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 10:53 AM
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Hey guys I'm new. I;m taking the courses. i have a little question. Does a set win over a strip?
Hey Jai..welcome to the league and the forum.

Nothing beats a good strip in my eyes.

I believe you are finding your answers here. 3 of a kind is 3 of a kind no matter how you get it, but like dreamer said, if you have a set (pocket pair w/ a 3rd on the board) and the other player has trips, (a pair on the board and he's holding a 3rd card) then the set will win because he now has a full house.

Take your time in looking everything over here as there is a lot to see.
Don't hesitate to ask any questions and enjoy.
 
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Fri Sep 23, 2011, 01:35 PM
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PokerStars Game #67938706845: Tournament #445377082, 300+20 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2011/09/23 10:00:34 PT [2011/09/23 13:00:34 ET]
Table '445377082 3' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Cairn Destop (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: Opa_Gerry (1490 in chips)
Seat 3: akiyuki19200 (1380 in chips)
Seat 4: droodroo2001 (1390 in chips)
Seat 5: mdelchambre (1700 in chips)
Seat 6: 1apple_king (1970 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Baga3ont111 (1390 in chips)
Seat 9: Djmirko1976 (1180 in chips)
mdelchambre: posts small blind 10
1apple_king: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Cairn Destop [8d Qc]
Baga3ont111: calls 20
Djmirko1976: raises 80 to 100
Cairn Destop: folds
Opa_Gerry: calls 100
akiyuki19200: folds
droodroo2001: calls 100
mdelchambre: calls 90
1apple_king: folds
Baga3ont111: calls 80
*** FLOP *** [3h 9s 9d]
mdelchambre: bets 440
Baga3ont111: folds
Djmirko1976: folds
Opa_Gerry: raises 440 to 880
droodroo2001: folds
mdelchambre: calls 440
*** TURN *** [3h 9s 9d] [8h]
mdelchambre: checks
Opa_Gerry: bets 510 and is all-in
mdelchambre: calls 510
*** RIVER *** [3h 9s 9d 8h] [Ac]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mdelchambre: shows [9h 7h] (three of a kind, Nines)
Opa_Gerry: shows [3c 3s] (a full house, Threes full of Nines)
Opa_Gerry collected 3300 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3300 | Rake 0
Board [3h 9s 9d 8h Ac]
Seat 1: Cairn Destop folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Opa_Gerry showed [3c 3s] and won (3300) with a full house, Threes full of Nines
Seat 3: akiyuki19200 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: droodroo2001 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 5: mdelchambre (small blind) showed [9h 7h] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 6: 1apple_king (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Baga3ont111 folded on the Flop
Seat 9: Djmirko1976 folded on the Flop




Here is a perfect example of set verses trips. Opa_Gerry has a set. (pair in hand + one on board) mdelchambre has trips. (one card in hand + pair on board) Since both players are in the same hand, the set, (full house), beats the trips, (three of a kind).
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2011, 07:02 PM
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Cairn - Thanks for the sample. I fully understand the difference between a set and trips, but was developing a headache trying to figure out the other posts - that trips beats a set because the player has two on the board. Maybe I am missing something in the explanations, but I don't see any guarantee that trips would beat a set or vice-versa. In fact, once you have a full house, you no longer have trips. Your trips just grew up, just like a set can grow up and become a boat.

So what did I misunderstand?

And welcome to the game jaimaster.

Herk
 
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Mon Sep 26, 2011, 07:17 PM
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Hey Herk, thnx for the pm by the way. I think the point he's tryin to make is that it is impossible to have trips AND a set on the same hand in holdemand no trips over trips, only set over set. The other two obv. become boat v trips and boat v boat. and to tell ya the truth, I think the op meant a straight.
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2011, 02:40 AM
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A set is made with a pp in the hand, and 1 card on the board for 3 of a kind.

Trips are made with 2 of a given value on board and 1 in your hand.
It is, however, also 3 of a kind.

There is no way a set is held that is WORSE than trips on the SAME board.
A set on a paired board would result in that person holding a full house, not just 3 of a kind.

It should be noted that a set tends to be a more "powerful" hand given its greater ability to win chips. This ability is derived from:

A) a set tends to be more "disguised", while it tends to be easier to read trip hands.
B) a set can be the nut hand, whereas a trips hand can never be the nuts.

In hold 'em, your hand value is relative to the potential nut hand, as both you and opponents will use up to 3 board cards to make your hand. This means trips will often be called by another trip hand, thus devolving the showdown to a battle of "kickers". Sets are derived merely from using 1 card on a given board, therefore they tend to be less easily noticed by opponents with good kicker top paired hands.

so if you want to look at them in terms of equity value, a set is more valuable than trips, but both tend to be quite profitable 3 of a kind hands on showdown quite often.
 
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Tue Sep 27, 2011, 12:24 PM
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Tks for the clarification, MT. And JDean, as always a thorough assessment of the situation.

Herk
 

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