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Hello - New to PSO - Mon Oct 03, 2011, 12:57 PM
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Hello PSO Community,

My name's Michael, and I work with the PokerStars Game Security Team to enforce the rules of the game. I'm excited about joining the PSO community more actively to provide assistance and support on queries that you might have about the rules of the game at PokerStars.

Sincerely,

Michael J
PokerStars Game Security Team
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 03:02 PM
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Howdy and welcome to PSO. You're prolly gonna be busy once people find out you're here.

Dan, I'm doing your job for you again...
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 03:19 PM
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Hi - & welcome -

rather unfortunately it is exactly what we need at the moment - someone to enforce the rules a bit more stringently - probably several thousand threads you need to read through in here to start with. I'm sure you will be kept busy.

Good luck

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 04:52 PM
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LOL WHERES MONK NOW


 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 05:58 PM
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Hi - & welcome -

rather unfortunately it is exactly what we need at the moment - someone to enforce the rules a bit more stringently - probably several thousand threads you need to read through in here to start with. I'm sure you will be kept busy.

Good luck

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
The rules of the forum have always been Enforced, as for the things that people post that fall under the Poker Stars Software (in game play and such) ya need to send emails in to support@pokerstars.com
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 06:00 PM
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BTW Welcome to PSO Michael
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 06:07 PM
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The rules of the forum have always been Enforced, as for the things that people post that fall under the Poker Stars Software (in game play and such) ya need to send emails in to support@pokerstars.com
Isnt that what Michael is here for? to assist in peoples complaints about the poker room? That is what I got from Edins post, suggesting he read the many threads about collusion cheating etc
 
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Mon Oct 03, 2011, 06:16 PM
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Am I missing something TOO2COO?

I thought Michael said he was enforcing the rules of the game, for Pokerstars Game Security -(presumably with input from the forums), not policing the forum rules per se. So what exactly is his role - perhaps a little more clarification is required.

And I always do report suspicious stuff direct to pokerstars support and never have instigated anything posted here regarding suspected cheating etc, though I have felt moved to add my comments to some of the recent stuff, (where you will note I also said we regular forum users should not consider ourselves to be judge and jury but inform PS direct).

Regards

Ed from Edinburgh - EdinFreeMan
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 08:55 AM
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Hi,

To clarify, I work to enforce the rules of our games in the poker card room, not your forum posts.

If you do believe that someone has broken the rules somehow in the game, then please do email support@pokerstars.com in the first instance. Hopefully if people have more generic questions I may be able to assist here.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 11:12 AM
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Hi Michael and welcome to the community. Very glad to have you here.

This group has discussed rules and etiquette at the tables extensively, so to see after a day off that you haven't gotten a lot of "thanks for being here" is a bit of surprise. May be a bit early though.

We're glad to have ya'. If you have any questions, let us know.
Dan


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Howdy and welcome to PSO. You're prolly gonna be busy once people find out you're here.

Dan, I'm doing your job for you again...
Early Sundays and late Mondays are a bit sketchy criss.
Gotta go out and exercise this ol' body a bit and feel
young playin' softball while I still can.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 11:50 AM
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Hello and a warm welcome to you Michael.
 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 07:00 PM
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Gidee Up! Michael!

 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 07:17 PM
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Welcome to the forum, Micheal.

 
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Tue Oct 04, 2011, 09:32 PM
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I hope this starts some changes to PSO and how Stars and PSO communicate.


I think the issue of so much new players means you should be coming down harder on repeat offenders. As a player I often feel like I am wasting my time reporting things I see,due to the cut and paste responses that I receive.
As we speak I have two players talking about chopping the blinds and asking me to agree since every one else is sitting out, I have sat out since I am near the bubble.
Will I report no,because I will be told that they did not know the rules and its a old game.

Could you talk PSO into implementing a rules test so that when players break the rules they can not plead ingorance?
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 01:13 AM
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Early Sundays and late Mondays are a bit sketchy criss.
Gotta go out and exercise this ol' body a bit and feel
young playin' softball while I still can.
I really want to join a softball league. Well, crap. A bit late in the season for that. Hell, I can skate, maybe a hockey league. Ooooh. Hope that doesn't cost to much. I'm about to be checkin' biznitches all up against the boards.
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 01:38 AM
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Lol... I worked with a guy that used to show up on Mondays with missing chicklets and black eyes and he wasnt playing in a serious league.

Im also looking to get back and lace them up,maybe next year.

I was sitting down talking to my mom a couple months back and I had memories of never getting my skates tight enough.Used to have my friends Dads go ape on my laces to get them tight.
Ends out I had my cousins skates and he had bigger feet. Must be why I never made it to the NHL!
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 07:17 AM
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Hiya mike, welcome! I think you'll soon see you have your work cut out for ya.. glad to have you aboard! MT
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 07:49 AM
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Thanks all for your kind welcome.

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I think the issue of so much new players means you should be coming down harder on repeat offenders. As a player I often feel like I am wasting my time reporting things I see,due to the cut and paste responses that I receive...
Here's an article written by my good friend and colleague, Lee Jones, back in 2005:

http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer...to-the-novices

It largely explains the rationale behind our existing policies which have been very consistent since that time.

The vast majority of rules breaches are done by people who have no intent to harm, no understanding of the consequences, and no malicious motive to defraud you. They didn't know any better, and in these situations, we think it is reasonable to educate and warn the offenders. If there's harm caused to others, when appropriate, we (PokerStars) pay the compensation out of our own pocket.
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 01:03 PM
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From the article:

"Indeed, this seemingly endless wave of novices is very profitable for the (good) veteran players. But there is another side of it. That is, many of them don't know proper poker etiquette and protocol. How could they? Nobody teaches this sort of thing, it's (mostly) not in the books, and even if it were in the books, few of the novices read the books, anyway. And I don't think you really want them reading the books before they start playing, do you?"

That's why, for PSO specifically, there should be a simple rules and etiquette lesson and test before they get a ticket. Unless people don't even need to pass the quizzes anymore.

Anyone on the premier league board with 150+ VPPs should know the rules of poker, plain and simple.
 
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Wed Oct 05, 2011, 03:29 PM
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Thats a interesting read but it was also written during the boom in online poker.
We are now in a stage where the micros play a lot harder and the player field is alot smaller.

Is it acceptable for a micro player to be cheated to stop him from becoming the next star?
You have to look at how a players mindset about their game is changed when they are colluded against. New players do not see that they are being cheated and think that it is their game that has a problem and confidence drops from that. I have experienced that myself and it still lingers.

I agree a lot of new players do not understand the rules and would love to see Pokerstars work
on fixing that. I have seen quite often a player using a prohibited software and get told not to use it which I question is the right way to go about things. Its like saying you have one get out of jail free card so exploit it till they catch you.

Just going through 2p2 the last few months really has my head spinning on how many of the higher limits cheat and even attack those that think it is wrong. That tells me that there is a serious issue when big names are caught violating the rules.
If the majority of new players where to read these articles do you think they would still be putting money online?

I still think it would help this league a ton by implementing a test.
Often I think security does not see how PSO is special when it comes to cheats.
We see each other on a daily basis and not just randomness like outside of PSO.
So two people decide to cheat,its not a one time deal.
If you got a group bigger than 5 and I highly think that we have a few than it really is not helping new players learn,which I was under the belief this league was all about.
 

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