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US Players (or anyone else who wants to try...) 45 300+20 SNG Challenge - Fri Oct 14, 2011, 08:33 PM
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OK gang,as I've stated in Cairn's thread on the 27 man Orbit play money challenge I'm opening a 100 game 45 man SNG challenge at the 300+20 buy-in level. (Certainly if you want to do a higher level feel free,but for the purposes of the challenge do all 100 games at the same level).

I'm basing this off Cowboy's original Honu Challenge in that I hung a number up,let's see if you guys and gals can beat it. I knocked my 100 out in just over 3 weeks,but as Honu's original challenge for .25 45/90 mans was 100 games in a month we'll stick with that.

Here's your target (I'll be trying to beat it myself....)

100 games played at 300+20 per game: 32,000

ITM: 41 games (41%)

Play Money Chips Won: 75,870

+/-: + 43,870

"ROI": +137.09%


Here's a breakdown of how I placed ITM-wise:

1. 5
2. 7
3. 4
4. 7
5. 4
6. 8
7. 6


Not giving anything away here,just like Cairn's it's a little challenge for ourselves to keep us occupied whilst our political leaders/dunces/hacks/prostitutes/insert invective here endeavor to remove their heads from their asses or the nearest lobbyist's ass.


A few quick observation's I've made after 100 of these (and roughly 300 .25 45 man real money plays)...

A: As I said a couple weeks ago when I first started playing these in my opinion they play to roughly 70% the competency level of the .25 45 man's. That's what I felt then after 59 games,another 41 gave me no reason to change that estimation.

B: Places where I feel they differ most are in the first 1 or 2 table orbits these are definitely looser and more maniacal than the .25 mans,but I've seen many of ATC shoving loons in those as well so it's not so much as to be shocking.

C: The second most noticeable difference is that more players will enter more pots in these (I swear there ARE some guys that would have VPIP %'s of very close to 100% in these,some actually may BE at 100%). And MOST pots will be opened by a limp. That isn't really too different from the .25's really as until it was bubble time probably half the pots in those were open-limped.

D: It ain't poker as much as it's cards. What I mean by that is that to win MOST hands (and by most I mean around 80%...) you're going to have to showdown best. I won't let myself be made an open-limper by these dopes as I'm not going to fall into bad habits to adjust to them. That said understand that almost no raises are respected by many players and they generally figure if they were dealt 2 cards they are obliged to keep playing them until they are given no more.

E: The main adjustment that I made in these to compensate for point D was to be even more nitty in my hand selection (position and fold equity are nearly useless against players whose main objective is to not drown in their own drool,and that's A LOT of these players...just like the .25's really...). The upside is that when that one big hand does come if you carry the day with it you're liable to at least double up,many times you may triple up or even double through one player and get a fair amount of chips out of a couple others before their meds kick in.

F: There are a few actual players in each one of these I've found. Play money warriors who actually could have potentially donk OK here had they ever given it a try (or were to in the future) and some peeps who were,or even are for some of the non-Americans,real money players. Some actual winning players to (was HU last night with a US player who had played roughly 2500 OPR listed games at a $2.14 ABI and was 21% ITM with a +4% ROI,pretty solid). I've even run into a few guys I used to bump heads with in the actual .25's.

All in all I think that these have enough playability in them to keep one's game relatively sharp and provide some fun along the way. One thing I'm sure of and this and Cairn's 27 man Orbit Challenge had reinforced is that I would rather play for play money here than at the gyp joints currently available to US peeps,so I'm sallying forth.


So hopefully you all can find this challenge a fun and potentially useful outlet.

Good Luck.

Last edited by Moxie Pip; Fri Oct 14, 2011 at 08:38 PM..
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 01:00 AM
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I'm in......will play a couple tonight after I drop hubby off for his hunting trip. With the way I don't sleep I might actually get a good block of them done over the next 10 days....WOOHOO

Now what would you like us to post about our games....I figure I will try and post after every 25 what my stats are and to get a feel and feedback on how I am doing, cause we all know how my confidence levels are...LOL

Tits
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Faery Tats View Post
I'm in......will play a couple tonight after I drop hubby off for his hunting trip. With the way I don't sleep I might actually get a good block of them done over the next 10 days....WOOHOO

Now what would you like us to post about our games....I figure I will try and post after every 25 what my stats are and to get a feel and feedback on how I am doing, cause we all know how my confidence levels are...LOL

Tits

I'm not gonna get nailed by Cowboy for gimmick infringement so I'm going with a catch phrase for these of my own. So....

Carpe Donk 'Em Tits!!


Uh,however you want to list the games is okey dokey by me. If you want to start a post with 100 slots for each game and just come back and fill it in as needed,post every 10,25 games or whatever it all works for me.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 03:43 AM
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I'm In. Will use this post to update on results.
Game Results:
1.OTM
2.OTM
3.1st $4,725
4.1st $4,725
5.OTM
6.OTM
7.OTM
8.5th $945
9.1st $4,725
10.OTM
11.OTM
12.OTM
13.OTM
14.1st $4,725
15.OTM
16.4th $1,080
17.1st $4,725
18.OTM
19.6th $675
20.5th $945
21.OTM
22.OTM
23.OTM
24.OTM
25.OTM
26.OTM
27.4th $1,080
28.3rd $2,160
29.OTM
30.OTM
31.OTM
32.7th $540
33.6th $675
34.OTM
35.7th $540
36.OTM
37.OTM
38.OTM
39.6th $675
40.3rd $2,160
41.6th $675
42.OTM
43.OTM
44.1st $4,725
45. 5th $945
46. OTM
47. OTM
48. 2nd $3,375
49. OTM
50.4th $1,080

51.7th $540
52.1st $4,725
53.OTM
54.OTM
55.OTM
56.7th $540
57.OTM
58.OTM
59.1st $4,725
60.OTM
61.6th $675
62.OTM
63.OTM
64.OTM
65.OTM
66.OTM
67.OTM
68.OTM
69.1st $4,725
70.OTM
71.7th $540
returned $60,270

Last edited by PaidInFull6; Mon Dec 05, 2011 at 08:16 PM..
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 12:39 PM
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I'm in.. running 2 of these and one 27 man for Cairn's challenge at same time... will keep you updated as to how I'm doing.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 03:52 PM
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Carpe Donk 'Em Paid and JW!!!
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 05:26 PM
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Carpe Donk 'Em Paid and JW!!!
I'm now 2-4 ITM and +$$$... which is the bottom line. If not for the donkouts, would be 4-4.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 06:08 PM
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It's almost always a donk out in these though,same as the 27 man's.

AND same as the .25 real money 45 and 90 man's really.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 06:38 PM
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weird, I was going to fire a few up and now I have no play money games listed... all the cash real money though...
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 06:52 PM
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weird, I was going to fire a few up and now I have no play money games listed... all the cash real money though...
Make sure you have the "Play Money" tab clicked.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 06:56 PM
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i did and it stays blank, then I click any other button and it takes me to real money
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 06:58 PM
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Is your filter on? If not then Idk whats wrong.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 07:05 PM
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I think Paid is right Roomi, check your filter to make sure Play Money is checked. Or turn 'em off.
 
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Sat Oct 15, 2011, 07:12 PM
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yup filter lol
 
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Sun Oct 16, 2011, 05:36 PM
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Let's see ... 100 games!

At my current rate of one game a day skipping every other day because of obligations and spending time with the wife, I should be done by this time next year.

Oh well, you multi-tablers will have to take this one on, I can't keep up with that.

PS I did finish 2nd in the one I have played.

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Sun Oct 16, 2011, 07:40 PM
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no wins nor seconds, but i've more than doubled my $$ thru 15 of them. (9/15 ITM)
 
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Mon Oct 17, 2011, 07:21 PM
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Here are my results thru 25 games (the bad beats with QQ+ keep coming... hopefully they'll even out some, eventually).

8000 chips to buy-in
13365 chips made (profit of 5365 or ROI of 67%)
11-25 ITM (was 9/15)

3 3rd's, 2 4th's, 3 5th's, 2 6th's, 1 7th

back to grinding away at them.... one of these times I'm gonna get a hand to hold and get a win/2nd which will greatly increase the ROI numbers.
 
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Wed Oct 19, 2011, 05:18 PM
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Ok, due to unforseen circumstances...it's going to take me longer then I thought to do these. Oh, and the unforseen circumstance just happens to be....I actually have to go to work now...bastards!

Tits
 
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Fri Oct 21, 2011, 01:27 PM
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here are my numbers thru 50 games

buy-in: 16000
return: 27940 (ROI 74.6%)
ITM: 22-50
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2011, 10:32 PM
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here are my numbers thru 75 games

buy-in: 24000
return: 39855 (ROI 66.1%)
ITM: 32-75

two bad variance runs in there. a 2-14 and a 3-20.
 

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