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Cash Challenge(2NL+) - Sat Oct 22, 2011, 07:29 PM
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Welcome to my ongoing look at cash at the micros,Im a MTT player that has recently made the switch over to cash to improve my game.I ran a similiar post like this on 2p2 and played decent at 2NL and jumped up a little to quickly into 5NL and ran bad and tried to make it up by playing HUSNGs. So to be clear I have a hard time with bankroll management and I need to post this to keep me honest and build up some will power.

In this post you will find graphs,bankroll,my take on how to beat the level and things I struggle with.
Going to be pretty honest and hope people can learn with me as I try to climb up the ranks.

So here is the plan..

Current roll: $42.24
FPPs:1

Shortstack (80 cents) till I hit $80
Midstack ($2) till I hit $160

Now after that I will leave it undefined,since I may take a shot at 5NL or I might stay at 2NL for a bit longer.

So thats my bankroll plan for 2NL and should keep me busy for a well.

About my style:

Shortstack and midstack are pretty similiar,tight and aggressive.
I start my own tables to get less regulars on them and catch the gamblers that need a extra dollar
to play a tourney.

Leaks I am aware of and plan to work on:
- Right now I am pretty tight but plan to work on that at the next level
- I showdown way to often
- I dont tax the players when I have a good hand
- I fold light to steals
- I gamble in spots and flip with loose players

I will add to this as I find more issues


Alright starting a session and will post a graph when Im done for you guys to post questions about and point issues out to me.

Yes I canceled my 25cent SNG because I managed to get a deep run in the VPP 30K today,so I got a kick start on my roll.
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2011, 07:37 PM
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Good luck!!

 
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Sat Oct 22, 2011, 07:38 PM
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I forgot to mention I dont play more than 4 tables,most of the time it will be 2 tables.

Thats a awesome photo Roomik..lmao
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2011, 09:38 PM
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Yes I canceled my 25cent SNG because I managed to get a deep run in the VPP 30K today,so I got a kick start on my roll.
Congrats on the deep run!! And GL with the cash challenge!!

(PS Are those two bandits in jail yet? )
 
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Sat Oct 22, 2011, 09:43 PM
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Congrats on the deep run!! And GL with the cash challenge!!

(PS Are those two bandits in jail yet? )
they will be when Hellmuth catches them
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 03:41 AM
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I havent been updating lately and will sort everything out tomorrow.
Have moved to 5NL and things are looking decent.Went from being down 35 dollars at this level
lifetime to being up in the positive in two days so Im happy with that since I havent looked at the regs
and how to exploit most of them yet,so my winrate should increase.

Will post a graph about the same time tomorrow.
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 04:49 AM
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Good luck IseeCookies! Don't worry too much about regs at microstakes, just care a lot about table- and seatselection and you will be fine making it through to the next level soon

Felix
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 06:37 PM
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Good luck IseeCookies! Don't worry too much about regs at microstakes, just care a lot about table- and seatselection and you will be fine making it through to the next level soon

Felix

Felix I'm watching your grinding up through the micro's videos,excellent information in these. Could you perhaps briefly touch here in the Forum upon what you look for in table and seat selection at 2NL and 5NL? Think that would be very helpful for the peeps.

Thanks and good luck.
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 06:48 PM
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Felix I'm watching your grinding up through the micro's videos,excellent information in these. Could you perhaps briefly touch here in the Forum upon what you look for in table and seat selection at 2NL and 5NL? Think that would be very helpful for the peeps.

Thanks and good luck.
great points Mox I hear alot about that but never how to do it
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 08:51 PM
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LoL at your photo there. I just posted something about runing like jesus...
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 08:53 PM
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Dude you have 8 full deep stack buy ins just play tight sss with a full stack and stack off with the shorties
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 08:57 PM
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Where can I find micro stakes in a casino for example .01/,02 no limit would love to practice grinding the micros there.
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 09:01 PM
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$1/$2 is the lowest I've ever seen here. And that's typically not available in most poker rooms on the weekends.

Thing is any micro ring player that's even marginally profitable at say 10NL,25NL and 50NL should have absolutely zero problem just raping a $1/$2 table live. I come out ahead most sessions (play tournies mostly live myself...) and I'm purely a break even donk on-line in rings.

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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 09:31 PM
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Ok as promised here is a post of my graphs so far,still going to showdown way to much for my liking.
I switched my game selection slightly for 5NL. I join 4 tables and start one.
Takes a bit longer to start tables so better to get a few hands in well I wait.Once I got a table going eliminate one of the 4 I started with and open another table.



Will play some more after the Nucks beat down the Coilers
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 09:32 PM
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Current roll: $86.61
FPPs: 209
 
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Tue Oct 25, 2011, 09:55 PM
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Nice!, but aren't your stats on the button a little low? vpip of 8%.... come on man push them donks! lol
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011, 12:27 AM
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Something for me to look at,I have noticed when it gets folded around I tend to fold it if I have taken a hand down recently. Will try to fix that and try to take down more pots that get into the checking it down situation and bet into them.

Only other reason I can think of for me being tight in that seat is that I tend to fold a lot short handed
in the button,which is even worse..lol!! Think thats my MTT play effecting my thinking there.
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011, 12:27 AM
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Wow, nice steady accumulation of $ there!

Looks like you persevered well through the slow times too (from about hands 2800 to 3500) - no apparent tilting off like a nut the way I did when the cards dried up
 
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Wed Oct 26, 2011, 12:31 AM
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Like Moxie says the caliber of live players at 1/2 is pretty fishy.
My local runs a 1/3 instead now.

So many grinders have moved to my neck of the woods Im kind of scared to hit the casino and get my pockets cut open.
 
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Thu Oct 27, 2011, 01:52 AM
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Current roll: $109.71
FPPs: 157

I used 235FPPs on a Sunday Satelite and got caught stealiing,so I think I will sit on these as a back up plan in case I go busto.
Will post a graph on friday and I might take a shot at 10NL on Friday as well depending how much I can win between know and then. Im hoping to hit $150 and then I can shortstack 10NL against some loose Friday warriors.If all goes well I might stay at 10NL from there on.

Observations so far:

As a whole I am happy with my play at this level. I ran a similiar post on 2p2 and lost most of my $50 roll at 5nl and the rest at HUSNGs trying to make up for the lose. So I was worried about this level and was thinking of sitting at 2nl till I had enough to jump to 10NL. I know strange but I have seen and spoken to a few guys that think the same way. So Im happy that I dont have that hang up and knocked that monkey off my back.

Im showing down less hands but still to many for my liking,PTR has me showing down 93% which is wrong and was pissing me off a little. I got it scaled back to 90%..lol My stats that I keep on PT3 state otherwise so no biggie.

I have been curious about how other players are perceiving my game and watching where players
with 300+ hands choose to sit when given the choice.I still start alot of my tables so the openings are always left and right of me. I still find a lot of them want position on me but a few see me as a nit and sit to my right. Mostly they sit to my left as they are joining my table and seeing me showdown borderline garbage against a fish that I have reads on and I am trying to get to open up against me.

Still amazed at how many players have read beat up on the limpers,so they repeatedly shove on them or over play their hands to make what they perceive as the right play.
They have no clue what to do when I call with position and will check it and I take it down.
Seems to be a lot of players that know stuff but they dont know why they do it and I think that is where a lot of leaks come from.

So I hope I can plug some more of my leaks and will get more into hand reviews as I move along.
 

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