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Not sure on this one... - Thu Nov 03, 2011, 09:03 PM
Tomcrockpot's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 140
Note: the following is from a limit game
So.. when this happened I was really annoyed..
Sorry, this hand was deleted by its owner
And thought it was definitely a bad beat.. then I thought about the odds.. And maybe villain still made the right play...
I bet on the flop as it is fairly safe board and I have top pair.
On the turn, I still have top pair and am drawing to the nut flush.
Villain is obviously drawing to either a straight or a flush.. (although he's drawing dead to the straight) and then he hits the one card..
Pot odds on the turn, ~13%, drawing odds to his straight / flush (assuming he doesn't discount any of them, but don't think he had any real read on me) 12 outs to hit the straight or the flush so ~25% So clearly calling is the right play...

I'm starting to find limit frustrating, because you just can't protect your hands from draws... might give 1c/2c nl a go.. although I think the hyper aggression of some idiots on the tables will just get to me.

Last edited by Tomcrockpot; Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 09:41 PM.. Reason: clarification
Thu Nov 03, 2011, 09:23 PM
ultramanAK's Avatar
Since: Jul 2011
Posts: 72
Dear Tom,

Here is my 2cent opinion, I think there's nth to brag about this hand. here's why,

1. A4suited is not a playable hand at your position esspecially when you limp.

2. Postflop bet look weak to me, n if i m him i'll call for sure. coz i might hit nuts straight.

3. Turn bet look like a standard continues bet as he might think you have Ax or you might already hit 2pair, but who care, he now have nuts straight n weak flush draw.

4. U hit your nut flush n do nth wrong, just a very good b bad river card for you.

So, i dont think there is anything for you to complain coz for me, you make 75% mistake that coz your money. 2cent opiniom.

Anyway, good luck at the table next time.
Thu Nov 03, 2011, 09:30 PM
Tomcrockpot's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 140

This is a Limit hand though.. I can only bet the bet size.. For sure in NL I would have stuck way more chips in on the flop and turn.

Agreed that A4s pre flop is maybe iffy.. I'd had a run of bad cards and felt like playing a marginal hand
Thu Nov 03, 2011, 09:42 PM
JWK24's Avatar
Since: Jun 2010
Posts: 24,809
yes, it's a bad beat..... but you should have never been in the situation to start with.

Here's why....

If you're going to get into the hand, raise preflop. Letting people limp into a pot with you, especially that many in a pot, is asking for trouble, espeically in limit. If you raised when it gets to you, then the opp raises, you can then re-raise him.

Suited cards like what the opp had, should go away to a capped bet preflop. Should. If the person's a calling station, then there isn't much you can do.

Last edited by JWK24; Thu Nov 03, 2011 at 09:45 PM..
Fri Nov 04, 2011, 06:59 AM
Tomcrockpot's Avatar
Since: Oct 2011
Posts: 140
Thanks, as I said before it was a limit hand. I'll make that clearer in future, I understand nl is the default here.

Anyway, given that, I think I played well post flop, but take on board that if I was going to play that hand should have gone in raising pre flop.

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