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1st hand double up - Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:14 PM
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So i been reading that i should stay out off the 1st few blind levels as the pots are to small.This is the 1st hand off the tourney and this guy goes all in SB folds i call. Am i right in calling in this position here so early on or should i be worried about aa kk hands.
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:24 PM
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Against one opponent.. QQ I would probably call.
JJ or less I think I would fold.
More than one opponent and not sure..

If this is micro, then it's tricky because so many of the weak players will try shoving on the early hands, often with any Ace or any two cards 9+ so generally QQ you would be ahead.

Usually I err on the side of caution first few hands just so I can figure out who the donks are and who the more solid players are. But as I said, QQ vs only one other player I would call. To win a tourney you have to win at least 1 or 2 coin flips anyway, and with QQ you will mostly be ahead. Jacks or lower though or multiple callers and I think I would fold.
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:25 PM
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So i been reading that i should stay out off the 1st few blind levels as the pots are to small.
Huh? During the first few levels is when you have the maximum amount of fish still playing. You don't want to make any big bluffs or commit too hard with one pair when stacks are deep, but you do want to play!

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This is the 1st hand off the tourney and this guy goes all in SB folds i call. Am i right in calling in this position here so early on or should i be worried about aa kk hands.
Yeah, no way I'm folding. Chances are anyone open jamming the start stack is an idiot, and his range here will be much wider than AA, KK.
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:43 PM
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So i been reading that i should stay out off the 1st few blind levels as the pots are to small
Ya dont know where you read this but I couldnt disagree more... An early double can afford you a completly different style (if you so choose) of play and can be super beneficial to a deep run.. and in the early goings there's lots of value in playing against the droolers/paint chip eaters/spewtards..etc when you have premium holdings. My feelings are the same about late entries as well My .02

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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:48 PM
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I was referring to this in the sng courses

Sit & Go: The Early Phase
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General Guidelines for playing the start of Sit & Go's
Play super-tight early!

This simple advice should be the basis of your strategy in the first three blind levels. Most of your opponents in micro-stakes Sit & Go's will play way too loose and see too many flops with weak hands, and then make weak calls post flop.

To take advantage of these weaknesses, you should play very few hands during the first three levels of play. The blinds are too small to be worth going after, and you don't want to risk your tournament without a strong hand. Let everyone else knock each other out – it doesn't matter if you fall behind in chips.

 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:52 PM
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That doesn't say stay out of.. It says play few hands and dont risk your tourney w/o a strong hand.. Big difference..
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 01:54 PM
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Misunderstanding
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 04:15 PM
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Against a single Oppenent I am calling here but I also awaire that I could be against AA or KK and thus crushed. In which case NH sir. Moan double think my self and kick the cat (note: we don't have a cat!!)

I may be up against AK in which case i just Flipped for my tourny life.

but given the range of the "average" micro stake player i am probly waaaaaay ahead of the range.

to Quote Dave "The Langolier" "your milage may vary."

One of the good things about having played near 350 45 man 25 cent games is that i have stats on the regs and if one of them makes this more i am probly passing (player dependant).

I would like to Hear if anyone would pass in this spot mind you.

Grade b
 
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Tue Nov 22, 2011, 07:03 PM
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If it's micro stakes and I haven't got any info on the villain I can't get my chips in fast enough on this one.
If i'm facing AA or KK so be it but most of the time it will be rags.
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2011, 09:54 AM
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depends what kind of tourney it is, for a normal tourney its definately a call for me, on the PSO tourney I think its a fold, most guys shove in the first few minutes especially the first hands with Ace rag, or king rag, if they hit any of them ur done with a big loss in the leaderboards.
 
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Wed Nov 23, 2011, 10:07 AM
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Was a micro 0.25 early double up and finished 3rd shoved A9 guy had AA
 

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