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Bad shove ? - Wed Nov 30, 2011, 01:07 PM
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Was this a good shove as i was worried about the flush. Also a 3 bet would have made me po committed.
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 01:17 PM
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I am going to be interested in the reply to this one!

What type of tourney was it? Did you have any reads on your opponents? I am assuming some type of freeroll like the Open League or the Anniversary events with such big stacks at 25/50 blinds.

I really do not think it was badly played at all by you.

Cheers,

TC
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 01:21 PM
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45 man $0.25 was early and these guys were very loose.
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 01:27 PM
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Surprised by that Bis, but as I said I think you played it perfectly.

Cheers,

TC
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 01:57 PM
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Good to hear
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 02:06 PM
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Ill add this to. Guy that calls my shove i have plenty of notes on him. He is a huge donkey !
0.25 45 man 14 left.
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 02:16 PM
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On this stack size if you hit any pair with AK you should be committed.

Flop bet is too small unless C-bets are getting attacked good. You smashed this flop and it's pretty likely your opponent has a piece. Turn pot sized bet is standard. He picked up some extra outs and hit the river. You played this fine.
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 02:28 PM
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So when im in hands like this i should make pot sized bets ?
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 05:37 PM
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If you figured that he had 2 clubs then you were a 4:1 fav.

He would have to call 1050 to win 2050 (i think cant see the video) so would be an incorrect play by him. Even if he wins.

So if that's the range you put him on it was a good shove.

What was the range of hands you thought he might have?


Do you use poker stove you can put in ranges and see different equities, its a useful tool


Grade b

Note given his hand and even if he put you on AK he is 3:1 against and still should note call

Last edited by Grade b; Wed Nov 30, 2011 at 05:48 PM..
 
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Wed Nov 30, 2011, 05:55 PM
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Put him on a flush draw after he called.
 
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Thu Dec 01, 2011, 12:34 AM
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QQ is standard. Don't be results-oriented.

For that AK hand you really need to take stack sizes into account. On the turn you are shoving for a potsized bet with a monster. (Any pair you make with AK is a monster on your stack size!) The only way shoving is not the best move here is if you think he's more likely to bet worse at you than to call your shove with worse. This board is a pretty excellent one to get value from worse though, so definitely I'd shove.

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So when im in hands like this i should make pot sized bets ?
Doesn't have to be pot-sized. You want to make it easy to get stacks in when you have a big hand. If you bet small on the flop and big on the turn it's harder to call that turn shove than if you bet medium on the flop and medium on the turn. Try using a 2/3 pot C-bet. It's a nice size.
 

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