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the worst ever bad beat i've encounter - Sun Dec 04, 2011, 08:31 PM
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I m speechless.... Almost ITM, these calling station play like this.

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Sun Dec 04, 2011, 10:00 PM
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That's pretty sick, but I'd have been shoving on the flop, that would have changed everything. Sometimes that seemingly harmless extra card is just enough encouragement....

 
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Sun Dec 04, 2011, 10:01 PM
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That's pretty sick, but I'd have been shoving on the flop, that would have changed everything. Sometimes that seemingly harmless extra card is just enough encouragement....

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Had exactly same!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Mon Dec 05, 2011, 06:48 AM
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I had exactly the same situation but i did shove but guess what same result !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have had pair jacks 5 times i have won with them once the only time i did not win when i did not shove !!!!!!!!! Its really sick when they hit the straight or a flush when they go allin with 7 4 unsuited and hit a full house yeah that happened to me when i had 3 aces go figure lol yeah and it also happened when i got called allin when i was in the bb by the sb guess what he turned over 7 2 i thought no problem laughed my head off i had him covered with chips so i called guess what i was holding aces then he hit a straight crazy !!!!!!!!!! I its so frustrating i just cant seem to read these players !!!!!!!!!!! They play everything and raise everything with nothing !!!!!!!!!!! Hope your bad beat does not go on for long good players always rise to the top in end i went through a terrible run for about 3 weeks could not win a hand let alone a tour but i won a sit and go other day and had some good money finishes in between that bad run so i guess what i am trying to say you can not win every hand and this kind of thing is going to happen with the maniacs but stick with it play strong and in between the bad results will be the good ones i have not changed my style some weeks it pays some it doesnt but not going to play the maniacs way because i wont win anything again would rather lose a few hands then a tour playing like a maniac love from the diva to you and yours x
 
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Mon Dec 05, 2011, 12:38 PM
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l don't get his (vilian) logic, he had nothing on the flop. Most wqould fold. L don't thing you did anything wrong. The only thing l can say is that's poker for you.
 
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Mon Dec 05, 2011, 05:13 PM
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I had exactly the same situation but i did shove but guess what same result !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have had pair jacks 5 times i have won with them once the only time i did not win when i did not shove !!!!!!!!! Its really sick when they hit the straight or a flush when they go allin with 7 4 unsuited and hit a full house yeah that happened to me when i had 3 aces go figure lol yeah and it also happened when i got called allin when i was in the bb by the sb guess what he turned over 7 2 i thought no problem laughed my head off i had him covered with chips so i called guess what i was holding aces then he hit a straight crazy !!!!!!!!!! I its so frustrating i just cant seem to read these players !!!!!!!!!!! They play everything and raise everything with nothing !!!!!!!!!!! Hope your bad beat does not go on for long good players always rise to the top in end i went through a terrible run for about 3 weeks could not win a hand let alone a tour but i won a sit and go other day and had some good money finishes in between that bad run so i guess what i am trying to say you can not win every hand and this kind of thing is going to happen with the maniacs but stick with it play strong and in between the bad results will be the good ones i have not changed my style some weeks it pays some it doesnt but not going to play the maniacs way because i wont win anything again would rather lose a few hands then a tour playing like a maniac love from the diva to you and yours x
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manners - Mon Dec 05, 2011, 07:18 PM
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you ever heard off manners was not aware i was at school !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Tue Dec 06, 2011, 10:49 AM
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Lol the s in pso does stand for school..
And ultra, if an 8out river is your worst bad beat, concider yourself very fortunate...
Not sayin he didn't play it hideously, but still....
 
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Wed Dec 07, 2011, 06:34 AM
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That's pretty sick, but I'd have been shoving on the flop, that would have changed everything. Sometimes that seemingly harmless extra card is just enough encouragement....
I believe that this is a deceptive line of thinking. Sure, you would have won the hand (probably), but you would have won because you scared away the silly man by overbet-shoving for 2.5x the pot. He was ~15% to win when he went all-in on the turn, so ultimately, without seeing the outcome, the Hero here got the most desirable result.

By shoving the flop, only two pair+ is ever calling, which means that almost nothing worse will call. As played, apparently a lot worse did call, which means the trap that the Hero set worked. The cards just didn't hold up. Sometimes you can't beat bad luck.


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Wed Dec 07, 2011, 03:05 PM
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I believe that this is a deceptive line of thinking. Sure, you would have won the hand (probably), but you would have won because you scared away the silly man by overbet-shoving for 2.5x the pot. He was ~15% to win when he went all-in on the turn, so ultimately, without seeing the outcome, the Hero here got the most desirable result.

By shoving the flop, only two pair+ is ever calling, which means that almost nothing worse will call. As played, apparently a lot worse did call, which means the trap that the Hero set worked. The cards just didn't hold up. Sometimes you can't beat bad luck.

I hadn't thought of that, but I try not to trap too often. I really hate it when my perfect trap gets outdrawn on the river, so I'm inclined to avoid that situation and the ensuing tilt.

 
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Wed Dec 07, 2011, 03:38 PM
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lol, I know how bad tilt can be. I guess anything to avoid that should be priority numero uno.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2011, 04:21 AM
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I believe that this is a deceptive line of thinking. Sure, you would have won the hand (probably), but you would have won because you scared away the silly man by overbet-shoving for 2.5x the pot. He was ~15% to win when he went all-in on the turn, so ultimately, without seeing the outcome, the Hero here got the most desirable result.

By shoving the flop, only two pair+ is ever calling, which means that almost nothing worse will call. As played, apparently a lot worse did call, which means the trap that the Hero set worked. The cards just didn't hold up. Sometimes you can't beat bad luck.

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Shoving the flop here is a huge leak value wise. You can't be scared of the occasional bad beat and make large over bets that price players out that would merrily call you off to the river when they are only 20% or worse to win the hand. That's just punting value over the long haul.

This is a very hard lesson for some to learn (was for me for sure...) as the simple truth is that the human psyche being wired as it is we remember the times we get beat in spots like this much more than the more standard and numerous results of the hands holding up.
 
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Fri Dec 09, 2011, 09:02 AM
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When that 8d comes on the turn, he could easily have both straight and flush draws, so you shove three of a kind at a potentially disastrous point, even more so against someone who has you well covered!

I think you're not looking at the board, the potential for your opponent to have a valid drawing hand. I mean, in this particular case he doesnt - but he covers you so maybe he fancies a longer shot gamble this time.
 

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