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Is it justifiable to call a shove here with my JJ?

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Is it justifiable to call a shove here with my JJ? - Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:10 AM
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$0.10 360-turbo MTT. 18 players left. About 10 BB left in my stack.


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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:20 AM
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I choose no Well fold,

But in certian situations i would call less that 10 BB's afteer all)

but i can not say its a good /ok/great call becuase you have told us nothing about the Villian.

IS he playing every hand? Tight, only raising with the goods? Some more info will help in deciding if we risk it all here or fold and grab a bucket to throw up into....



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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:26 AM
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Maybe! But probably!

You have less than 10 bb's or a rather low M if you prefer that way and you have given us no read on the shover! Have you seen him do this b4 have you seen anything about him? Did you hit your time bank and think about it or do you have any time left? What is your table image.... I ask this because it may be a reason why he is making his move!
If he is doing this with a wide range then all day long! We are a 58% to 42% fav even against a 5% range and we are only afraid of 3 hands QQ, KK and AA. Most times they are not doing this with those hands as they lose way too much value! If however he has got a read on you and he thinks you will call it lightly ................... I'm just saying.

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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:19 AM
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I don't think you have 18 players left or you'd have a full table.
As the others say, for a decent analysis, you need to provide info on the villain and even possibly the two players to his left. They should be considered in this because the villain obv. has no worry about shoving on them (or you) ...and that says a lot.
If I've never seen this player open shove without a monster, or at all, then I don't like the call. I would usually rather be the one shoving in a situation like this, rather than be the caller.
More info is always better than less.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:34 AM
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the only thing fresh in my mind about my opponent at that time was he called my preflop raise (x3BB) with K2o. I just prayed that he was just holding an AK and not a better pair when I called his shove. I will have to work on reading my opponents. Most of my decision is simply based on my hole cards and the board.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by !!!111Dan View Post
I don't think you have 18 players left or you'd have a full table.
We could have been 19+. I also looked at the "money" bracket to see where I was before calling.
I did finish in 18th. 'Could be a split second difference when 19th got busted before me.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 11:49 AM
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Going on no opponent read given I would have to call with sub 10bb.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:00 PM
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Easiest call ever. Pot is 5250 to start with and he will turn here flip or worse here more than enough times here to justify the call. It's also a short table so our time is REALLY running out.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:52 PM
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Easiest call ever. Pot is 5250 to start with and he will turn here flip or worse here more than enough times here to justify the call. It's also a short table so our time is REALLY running out.
This.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 12:56 PM
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Also, the stake is so low and I have seen plenty of shoves with far worse hands, and JJ is not that bad anyway, at least i think it isn't in that stage of the tournament. Final table is still a long way, but if I win that coin flip, I will have a better chance of making the final table.
 
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Wed Dec 14, 2011, 01:41 PM
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unless I had a read on that opp, that they were a 100% total nit and only playing QQ+, it's an instant call in my eyes. If the opp had been calling raises with hands like K2o or shown shoving with less than QQ+, I can't get my chips into the pot fast enough.
 

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