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Can someone explain this? - Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:20 PM
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Can someone help me with the rules of Omaha. The hand listed below occured in the Drunk tank last night. I was holding an Ace/Jack and after the flop I had Jacks and Fours. When the third four hit, I thought I had a full house, but I didn't win with a full house. Obviously I'm missing something from the rule book.

PokerStars Home Game #72462567163: {Drunk Tank} Tournament #483041760, 500+125+30 HORSE (Omaha Hi/Lo Limit) - Level XII (750/1500) - 2011/12/19
Table '483041760 2' 8-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Nobisquit (18116 in chips)
Seat 3: Phoenix Maya (1765 in chips)
Seat 4: effsea (9998 in chips)
Seat 6: JWK24 (7478 in chips)
Seat 8: Johnny Oak (7643 in chips)
Nobisquit: posts small blind 375
Phoenix Maya: posts big blind 750
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Johnny Oak [5h Jh As 2c]
effsea: folds
JWK24: calls 750
Johnny Oak: calls 750
Nobisquit: calls 375
Phoenix Maya: raises 750 to 1500
JWK24: calls 750
Johnny Oak: calls 750
Nobisquit: calls 750
*** FLOP *** [Jc 4d 4s]
Nobisquit: bets 750
Phoenix Maya: calls 265 and is all-in
JWK24: folds
Johnny Oak: calls 750
*** TURN *** [Jc 4d 4s] [7c]
Nobisquit: bets 1500
Johnny Oak: calls 1500
*** RIVER *** [Jc 4d 4s 7c] [4c]
Nobisquit: bets 1500
Johnny Oak: calls 1500
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Nobisquit: shows [3c 2d 6s 7d] (HI: three of a kind, Fours)
Johnny Oak: shows [5h Jh As 2c] (HI: three of a kind, Fours - Ace kicker)
Johnny Oak collected 6970 from side pot
Phoenix Maya: mucks hand
Johnny Oak collected 6795 from main pot
No low hand qualified
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13765 Main pot 6795. Side pot 6970. | Rake 0
Board [Jc 4d 4s 7c 4c]
Seat 2: Nobisquit (small blind) showed [3c 2d 6s 7d] and lost with HI: three of a kind, Fours
Seat 3: Phoenix Maya (big blind) mucked [9c 8s 7h 2s]
Seat 4: effsea folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: JWK24 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Johnny Oak (button) showed [5h Jh As 2c] and won (13765) with HI: three of a kind, Fours

I won the hand, but I don't know why. Made me feel like a Donk.
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:22 PM
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You have to use 2 and only 2 of your hole cards JO in Omaha.
You won the hand with a higher kicker.

edit...just one more note, if you're playing Hi/Lo, then you can use any combination of 2 cards to make your Hi and Lo hand, they don't have to be the same 2.

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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by !!!111Dan View Post
You have to use 2 and only 2 of your hole cards JO in Omaha.
You won the hand with a higher kicker.
OK now I get it. If you must use two of your hole cards, it means you can only use three of the board cards. Man I don't play Omaha very often, but obviously I was doing it all wrong. I was playing it like Hold'em rules.

Funny in the hand above I called because I thought I had a full house. If I had known what I really had I might have folded.

Last edited by Johnny Oak; Tue Dec 20, 2011 at 12:38 PM..
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:23 PM
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In any omaha game, you must use 2 from your hold cards and 3 from the board, no more, no less.
You do NOT have to use the same 2 hold cards and 3 board cards for high AND low... you can use any combination for it, as long as it is 2 from your hand and 3 from the board.

Also, for low, it must be 8 high or worse... or there is no low (same for stud h/l... it's gotta be 8 high or worse for low).
 
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Tue Dec 20, 2011, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JWK24 View Post
In any omaha game, you must use 2 from your hold cards and 3 from the board, no more, no less.
OK so the few hands I did win were from pure dumb luck, 'cause I did not know this. See you can teach an old dog new tricks.
 
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Wed Dec 21, 2011, 07:48 PM
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i find Omaha is good for Holdem training, as it is a range finder. what is the ranges people play!
with H/L u can play both sides, A-5 , 10-A, in st, and as JD said in past post, A-5 can not lose but it can lose u money if u bet out side range, 2+ people

Last edited by 0HighTimes0; Wed Dec 21, 2011 at 08:01 PM..
 

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