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ok folding here? - Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:05 PM
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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 05:19 PM
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I personally like the open and the bet on the flop. I would have checked behind on the turn and taken the free card rather than the half pot bet. The check raise indicates strength, likely trips, flush or straight, and really you have no option other than to fold. Calling here would be extremely foolhardy!

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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 06:35 PM
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I agree. The flop bet is fine, but when you get called you should usually shut down. The turn is a bad card to bet because:

If the villain had a flush draw, it's now a flush and he won't fold; if the villain has a K, then he will see a need to protect his hand and raise; if the villain has another moderate hand and doesn't believe you have a K or a flush, he'll raise to protect again; and if the villain was floating you with a heart, he may semibluff raise instead of folding.

Good fold.
 
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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 07:04 PM
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dont you guys think opening 33 UTG is too loose?

when he call your flop bet only hands he can have there is a king, Queen, JT, flush draw. or maybe pocket pair? less likely.

is it better to try delay cbet on the turn? ohh no we can't delay cbet cause he might call with flush draw...board is just too wet.

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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 07:50 PM
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Tue Dec 27, 2011, 07:58 PM
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preflop: If you're going to play 33 from UTG, then I like the std raise. This early, I try to play these hands from late postion, but if you're going to try one from UTG, like the std raise to try and conceal your hand.

flop: the BB checks and you follow with a value bet of just under 1/2 pot, which is good because not only can you get value from hands that missed the flop, you can see where you're at. The opp calls, so they most likely have a pkt pair or hit a part of the flop... either of which for your small pair is most likely a problem. The only things you're ahead of are two hearts.

turn: 9 of hearts. That's now a very big problem, because the only thing in the opp's range that you were ahead of, you're now behind. Since the opp checked, I'm checking behind here and re-evaluating on the river. Even if you get a 3 on the river, you may or may not be ahead. When you bet and the opp raises, you have to fold because you can't beat anything in the opp's range.


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